Airlink-SAAB 340

[9epnsrip]

Not sure which ones Airlink is flying, but IIRC, there is a pretty big performance difference between the 340-"A" and 340-"B". I think a lot of the problems cited here are with the "A" model and not the "B" model.

Yes!! The SF 340 B is the better model. The problem is weight, back in the day Pinnacle (NW Airlink) was running a SF 340b from PFN-MEM and now NW Airlink (Mesaba XJ) is running one from MEM-TRI the issue is fuel for the route the more fuel taken on. Less bags and pax can be taken which equals loss of $$$(but who cares most of us are working for Not For Profit Air Carriers) One day maybe the FAA or airlines will get a clue. An aircraft should be limited to flight miles. Such as a Beech 1900 can only fly 200 miles a leg, a SF 340 300 miles, a dash/ ATR 72 400 miles, a CRJ/ ERJ 35 750 miles. Hey it's not any fun sitting on a CRJ for 3 hours or a Beech 1900 for more then an hour (no LAV guys) This will solve our weight and balance issue. If a market cannot support a larger plane then get out of that market..

 

[PlayTheOdds]

I guess I can forget about those tire wear limitations for a thru flight.

 

[SegmentKing]

Actually, can't blame everything on the outsourced maintenance on the CLT crash... a number of factors played into it, and unfortunately they all came into play that day. The reason the cables broke was because of the excessive force caused from the flight crews trying to nose it down, with an aircraft out of CG due to a major shift in bags slipping thru the net to the R2 section of the bin.....

.. and so on and so on....

 

[PlayTheOdds]

Did poor PTO scab miss a flight because of weight restrictions? 😀 Thought that airplane had four open seats didn't you? Ha!Ha!Ha!Ha!Ha! 😛

Yes my Sweet Princess I did get bumped off a flight because of the weight restrictions along with three revenue passengers. Not by four seats though Dear but ten. Ten empty seats due to weight restrictions and three pissed off passengers. Does the company get to adjust the books for the adjusted load factor as well? "Noooo that aircraft didn't launch at a 57% load factor it went at 100%" 😀

 

[lwcntry]

Actually, can't blame everything on the outsourced maintenance on the CLT crash... a number of factors played into it, and unfortunately they all came into play that day. The reason the cables broke was because of the excessive force caused from the flight crews trying to nose it down, with an aircraft out of CG due to a major shift in bags slipping thru the net to the R2 section of the bin.....

.. and so on and so on....

Love to know where that came from about the bags 'slipping through the net into R2'. I read the entire NTSB report and that was never mentioned. Could you reference where you got that information?

 

[local 12 proud]

The reason the cables broke was because of the excessive force caused from the flight crews trying to nose it down, with an aircraft out of CG due to a major shift in bags slipping thru the net to the R2 section of the bin.....

.. and so on and so on....

Thats bull crap man, those high tensil steel cables were not broken by some pilot applying excessive force. The flight control cables are made of braided steel and they can take both pilots putting their feet on the control column without failing.

List your sources for such an event or shut your Ignorant piehole. Ive been in maintenance for a very long time and seen cables that were at least %50 compromised and still functioned.

The crash was caused by improper rigging and W/B issue's that is the facts.

 

[local 12 proud]

I did get bumped off a flight

Get used to it!

 

[local 12 proud]

The crash was caused by improper rigging and W/B issue's that is the facts.

FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE: February 26, 2004 SB-04-03
LOSS OF PITCH CONTROL CAUSED FATAL AIRLINER CRASH IN CHARLOTTE, NORTH CAROLINA LAST YEAR


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Washington, DC - The National Transportation Safety Board determined today that the probable cause of an airliner crash in Charlotte, North Carolina, last year was the airplane's loss of pitch control during takeoff. The loss of pitch control was the result of incorrect rigging of the elevator control system compounded by the airplane's center of gravity, which was substantially aft of the certified aft limit.

 

[700UW]

Thank you local 12.

 

[robbedagain]

FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE: February 26, 2004 SB-04-03
LOSS OF PITCH CONTROL CAUSED FATAL AIRLINER CRASH IN CHARLOTTE, NORTH CAROLINA LAST YEAR
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Washington, DC - The National Transportation Safety Board determined today that the probable cause of an airliner crash in Charlotte, North Carolina, last year was the airplane's loss of pitch control during takeoff. The loss of pitch control was the result of incorrect rigging of the elevator control system compounded by the airplane's center of gravity, which was substantially aft of the certified aft limit.

was that the unit that was improperly attached to something or how does it acutally go?

 

[local 12 proud]

was that the unit that was improperly attached to something or how does it acutally go?

Robbed the elevator's control the pitch (nose up/nose down) of the aircraft, they are attached to the horizontal stabilizer and linked by cables and pulleys to the control column (yoke). Im not certain where in the system a mistake was made during rigging of these Flight controls, but it is very critical that they are done properly because this controls the angle of attack.

Hope that helps you!

 

[robbedagain]

yes thank you

 

[PlayTheOdds]

Is there a big operational cost between a Saab and CRJ?

 

[robbedagain]

yes a sabb can make money a lot easier than an CRJ.. the CRJ has higher costs and even with full house it may not make money with fuel the way it is. The Saab on the other hand is a money maker and you dont even have to fill it up. It is probably like the DASH where it takes say 5 pax to make a little dough But maintaince costs are probably very high on the 340 a models compared to the b model

 

[PlayTheOdds]

Do you have any numbers to back that up?