Allegiant Air
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Based on your responce AA was not making money doing MRO work. Thanks for the info. Our union officials at ORD make it sound like AA has a conspiracy against mechs.
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They do
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we will never be able to compete with this management team on the property.They moved up future work on our a/c to fill all available capacity.Now thats deserving of a bonus!
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And I'm sure that management is saying they'll never be able to compete with the current wage/benefits structure...
Somewhere in the middle of what the union and management folks are saying is the truth. And both have their heads in the sand.
Somewhere in the middle of what the union and management folks are saying is the truth. And both have their heads in the sand.
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We will never be competetive with most overseas overhaul facilities.But we cant compete with any one $ for $ because no other outfit has so much extra cost added, we have more levels of blood sucking management than anyone out there.Most bring no or little value to maintenance of a a/c or engine but their cost.
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We have over 150 workers in Tulsa practicing attending "working together" meetings and when not attending meetings do nothing to produce.
I figure each person wages plus benefits has to be around $80,000.00 per year.
150 X $80,000.00 = 12,000,000.00 per year
Some of these folks were taken from the toolbox to make up an internal "marketing team". We had a chance to show our abilities to do some China Eastern Air CFM Engine work. After months of work by the "marketing team", we missed the bid deadline and never even submitted our bid.
The Allegiant Air contract, when bid was placed, the marketing team used labor reporting system to calculate our cost for bid. Labor reporting on A/C work cards did not include Supervisors, Stock Clerks, or Crew Chiefs in data because these folks do not labor report. Thus underbid, lost money on this contract.
We had a contract to some engine work on some Natural Gas Powered land generator turibine engines. Customer didn't want PMA parts in their equipmnet which AA uses. Only OEM parts could be installed. Everytime we ordered parts, they got lost in the fancy automated warehouse system and we failed to meet turntime.
We could be doing CF6-6 and CF6-50 engine work, but the "working together" process requires a 5S score for each area. This means clean up required us to get rid of that tooling as it was deemed to be surplus/trash. We couldn't bid the work when the customer came knocking because we no longer had the tooling/fixtures to accomplish the work. The required equipment had gone to scrap metal and melted down for some extra funds on some persons budget, to make them look good on the next budget review.
These are just a few specific examples of failed third party work attempts.
Each of you can decide for yourselves is this a cost or management problem.
I figure each person wages plus benefits has to be around $80,000.00 per year.
150 X $80,000.00 = 12,000,000.00 per year
Some of these folks were taken from the toolbox to make up an internal "marketing team". We had a chance to show our abilities to do some China Eastern Air CFM Engine work. After months of work by the "marketing team", we missed the bid deadline and never even submitted our bid.
The Allegiant Air contract, when bid was placed, the marketing team used labor reporting system to calculate our cost for bid. Labor reporting on A/C work cards did not include Supervisors, Stock Clerks, or Crew Chiefs in data because these folks do not labor report. Thus underbid, lost money on this contract.
We had a contract to some engine work on some Natural Gas Powered land generator turibine engines. Customer didn't want PMA parts in their equipmnet which AA uses. Only OEM parts could be installed. Everytime we ordered parts, they got lost in the fancy automated warehouse system and we failed to meet turntime.
We could be doing CF6-6 and CF6-50 engine work, but the "working together" process requires a 5S score for each area. This means clean up required us to get rid of that tooling as it was deemed to be surplus/trash. We couldn't bid the work when the customer came knocking because we no longer had the tooling/fixtures to accomplish the work. The required equipment had gone to scrap metal and melted down for some extra funds on some persons budget, to make them look good on the next budget review.
These are just a few specific examples of failed third party work attempts.
Each of you can decide for yourselves is this a cost or management problem.
On many occasions,if not every Allegiant aircraft through pulse, the crews had to halt work while the customer was trying to acquire parts from their suppliers .The crews had to be labor loaned up and down the line while they waited for days ,and sometimes up to two weeks for parts.It would be interesting to see how "innovative" the supervisors and the manager were with labor reporting/charging on those situations.
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Maybe Limit's post shows what AA couldn't say publicly: If G4 were insisting on using their own parts supplier vs. leveraging AA's supply chain, it's pretty clear having the aircraft sit on the dock longer than planned costs money, and maybe (just maybe) the Allegiant contract wasn't worth keeping after all.
