Next Im going to ask Tim your inner most feelings and what ever he says goes
American Airlines and Labor Negotiations
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It's in our contract now! "When and where directed." We don't own it! Company wants to keep it that way. We are trying to protect where we currently do lavs.
P. Rez
Weez I think Im going to start drinking beer and hang on here
Is that how its worded in the TWU contract too?
Tim Nelson
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I've actually learned to appreciate NYer. He just tells it like it is. Facts. He doesn't seem to be a Pollyanna either. And I've used him as a resource since he is a wealth of information.
An independent person who serves his members well. And he is cool and calm as Weezles hammers him every day but NYer keeps his cool and wits about him even among unnecessary weezle rants.
That said, I'm sure that me and NYer most likely disagree on more things than we would agree on, because of our different perspectives. Not that it matters since neither of us are Association members.
So shouldnt you take the TWU posture "we are not giving it up it survived our bankruptcy it should survive billions in profits" when you said I wouldnt bet the farm it didn't sound like someone taking an aggressive stance
Tim Nelson
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Yes it is. The truth offends people.
Obviously, having a United Airline Board Director being our Chief Negotiator needs to be done away with. He bagged a compensation of $43,000 as a board member last year and has a sworn allegiance to that board seat at United. I can't imagine American spilling financial information to him, thereby limiting discussions.
At any rate, I was kind of taken back tonight when CB said they are going on feelings. I wish these guys would stick to science and math instead of winging it with feelings.
And I don't believe that the company is going to wait around till they count the ballots, presumably in late may for Sito's election. I think there is an established timetable now and I think the possibility of an offer from the company being directly negotiated with the members by a vote could happen prior to section 6. I hope not because, oh boy we are sunk then.
Probably a 7th day double, so what
CB and Rez are probably good guys but I dont think they are being honest it sounds like they are reading from the negotiating committee handbook.Tim you and everyone at this site know what really goes on and I think they are stringing us along and its kind of insulting
Tim Nelson
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I'm off today but I do doubles a few times a week. It's summer time, I took 3 weeks off in June and I'll take another few weeks off in July, and again in August. May start hording in the shift swaps in September. Overtime is empty now here so I slowed down a bit more than I wanted to.
Tim Nelson
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I don't think Prez strings us along. Prez is a nice guy. CB blows smoke. Period.. I used to think that CB was a good guy but he is a snake in the grass. He speaks out of his butt.
I don't ever have to worry about Prez violating the rights of members or flipping out.
So you think they will stand their ground regarding the T'A or do what Sito tells them?
Just protecting what hes got,dog eat dog wonder if it were voluntary position instead of pay if there would be a different approach.Of course you would have to hire professional negotiators to be with them
Tim Nelson
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One thing I know. They will NOT stand their ground. They never have. Not that it matters because they aren't even members of the Association and have no powers or voices. My concern is Sito. While we can be certain that he won't sign a TA, tossing away our current health care, until the ballots are counted in late May, he may allow the company proposal to bypass the negotiation committee and go right to the members for a vote. Sito prolly has to check with his handlers at United's Board Office first though.
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