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gulfcoast1 said:
She couldn't come to the phone, but according to the official vote count, she got about 2 million more votes nationwide. Not enough to win the election but enough for trump to keep lying about the total. Sounds like small appendage disorder to me, or maybe Hillary is just bigger after all. Frankly, that would not surprise me.
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Doesn't matter that night Trump was celebrating and Hillary was rinsing the poop from her blue pantsuit
 
gulfcoast1 said:
Go find one post of me complaining about the cost of my healthcare and don't come back until you find one. Basically that means bye Felicia.

I realize if you support trumpalufagus, facts mean little to you, but alternative facts-as there are no such things-mean nothing to me. I find my healthcare to be affordable and I am satisfied with it. Maybe you are thinking about one of your IAM brothers, oops, I mean co-laborers.
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I have better things to do but addmitely I might have confused you with another self hating liberal so i.apologize
 
CremaDiLimone said:
well, if true, i hope the compensation was sweetened a bit and the company backed off lavs & water. i got different replies to PT ratio..so, that issue is over my head.

as a LAA employee, if all the above is true...bring it on.
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Yes, it was sweetened. Same as I posted in August. Let's just say that we won't be falling behind United. According to Fly. Delta is non union and they can raise their wages or lower them so who knows. As a LAA, it's most likely a sweet deal for you. Haven't heard about lavs. I know catering was indeed included in the August offer that was AIP, according to Fly, but then the company got pissed and took catering off the books, but I honestly don't know the specifics yet other than LUS Health is NOT in the company proposal that will be voted upon WITHOUT a TA prior to section 6 unless a TA can be had (Unlikely). All according to Fly.

It will pass, bottom line. LUS we don't have the numbers. Screwed again for us.

To get this offer to the members, Sito will allow management to circumvent the negotiating committee (That may be why he has put them on the shelf lately) and bring the offer right to you for a vote. As far as how the vote happens, the TWU and IAM may have different voting methods. IAM may vote at their station in their breakrooms, while TWU may have to go to the Local or vote by mail. Not sure but that will be worked out by Sito and Alex.
 
Tim Nelson said:
Yes, it was sweetened. Same as I posted in August. Let's just say that we won't be falling behind United. According to Fly. Delta is non union and they can raise their wages or lower them so who knows. As a LAA, it's most likely a sweet deal for you. Haven't heard about lavs. I know catering was indeed included in the August offer that was AIP, according to Fly, but then the company got pissed and took catering off the books, but I honestly don't know the specifics yet other than LUS Health is NOT in the company proposal that will be voted upon WITHOUT a TA prior to section 6 unless a TA can be had (Unlikely). All according to Fly.

It will pass, bottom line. LUS we don't have the numbers. Screwed again for us.

To get this offer to the members, Sito will allow management to circumvent the negotiating committee (That may be why he has put them on the shelf lately) and bring the offer right to you for a vote. As far as how the vote happens, the TWU and IAM may have different voting methods. IAM may vote at their station in their breakrooms, while TWU may have to go to the Local or vote by mail. Not sure but that will be worked out by Sito and Alex.
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If it's on my day off I won't be voting what says you Weez
 
ALUS78 said:
I have better things to do but addmitely I might have confused you with another self hating liberal so i.apologize
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I don't hate myself, and I don't think most liberals do either. I am not even progressive on all issues. I did not always agree with Obama. I did not think Hillary was the best choice but she certainly was far the lesser of two evils especially for organized labor. Sounds like maybe you're projecting, but I am not trained in psychology so who knows? Anyway BF.
 
WeAAsles said:
And of course you want the Company you work for to be highly profitable but McDonalds is highly profitable too ya know. And both jobs only require a High School Diploma.
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Most of McDonalds corporate profits are from franchise agreements and real estate. However, a typical McDonalds restaurant nets maybe $150,000, so let's give everyone a $10/hour raise. Figure 140 daily man hours (5 workers during slow times and 10 workers during busy times) over an 18-hour day-- $1,400 extra costs x 360 days = $504,000 increase annual expenses. So much for being "highly profitable".
 
Jester said:
Most of McDonalds corporate profits are from franchise agreements and real estate. However, a typical McDonalds restaurant nets maybe $150,000, so let's give everyone a $10/hour raise. Figure 140 daily man hours (5 workers during slow times and 10 workers during busy times) over an 18-hour day-- $1,400 extra costs x 360 days = $504,000 increase annual expenses. So much for being "highly profitable".
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We can both spend days targeting specific businesses and draw analyses that some treat there employees well with or without a Union and others don’t also both with or without a Union.

You still are employed in a position where the only requirement is a High School Diploma and are earning far more than the average.

You’re also earning decently more than the Average American worker too BTW and if you chose not to give Unions any credit for that I’m absolutely NOT going to get down in the weeds and argue with you.

All these Political Bear Traps are is annoying, irrelevant, petty, divisive arguments where today no one agrees or budges off their Sports Team like position anyway.

Like Al said. I could start throwing at you a mountain of data but you seem like a smart guy and should know it already. So why in the World should I bother when I will gain NOTHING for the effort?
 
WeAAsles said:
We can both spend days targeting specific businesses and draw analyses that some treat there employees well with or without a Union and others don’t also both with or without a Union.

You still are employed in a position where the only requirement is a High School Diploma and are earning far more than the average.

You’re also earning decently more than the Average American worker too BTW and if you chose not to give Unions any credit for that I’m absolutely NOT going to get down in the weeds and argue with you.

All these Political Bear Traps are is annoying, irrelevant, petty, divisive arguments where today no one agrees or budges off their Sports Team like position anyway.

Like Al said. I could start throwing at you a mountain of data but you seem like a smart guy and should know it already. So why in the World should I bother when I will gain NOTHING for the effort?
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Other than mentioning my name ,this Weez is boring
 
 
PIEDMONT784 said:
OUTRIGHT LIE!

http://thehill.com/homenews/campaig...-among-union-members-fell-15-points-in-a-year

https://www.nytimes.com/2018/01/23/us/politics/trump-trumka-unions-afl-cio.html

https://www.washingtonpost.com/busi...ory.html?noredirect=on&utm_term=.747d84ec89a9

https://www.politico.com/story/2017/12/06/trump-unions-supreme-court-285260

https://www.bankrate.com/personal-finance/smart-money/labor-unions-whats-their-future-under-trump/
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your quotations and links have nothing to do with what you quoted me on. Union membership is in fact up. As far as union members supporting Trump, millions do. But you can keep on posting fake news just like you did prior to union members voting in masse for him. In Ohio, the majority of all union households. Prior to the vote, union people were somewhat fearful to say they were voting for Trump because they got mocked or would be hounded. When they went into the booth, they knew what to do to avoid the very anti union Hillary.
 
ALUS78 said:
Tim this sounds like another advantage TWU will have over the IAM
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Not sure. If IAM members vote in the breakroom, it is usually close to 95% turnout. I don't see how a mail ballot would be better if the ballot comes directly to you at work to vote.
 
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