American Airlines and Labor Negotiations

[737823]

Josh from an outside unbiased view with all the BS going on and about to go on wiil in encourage people to leave the union altogether in the RTW states

Yes. Very few people would electively pay dues for the representation you guys are receiving. The unions know this and that’s why they’re terrified by right to work, Janus, etc. They’d sooner pay off politicians who will protect the unions from accountability than provide representation people would electively pay for.

Sorta like if you’ve purchased a new car in the last few years the sales people and managers would sooner coerce you to give them all 10s on the manufacturer post sale survey than give genuinely good service that you would report favorably.

Josh

 

[WeAAsles]

Swampy my prediction their card drive keeps going, the Association comes out with a sub par contract , the TWU side votes it down, and maintenance leaves the Association.

My prediction is that the AMT’s of American Airlines will continue to be pestered by 2 Trolls from another Airline and a goofball Ramper from their own Airline far more than any of them will actually converse amongst themselves.

Maybe one day the 3 of us idiots should leave these people alone? But none of us are planning to are we.

 

[ALUS78]

Yes. Very few people would electively pay dues for the representation you guys are receiving. The unions know this and that’s why they’re terrified by right to work, Janus, etc. They’d sooner pay off politicians who will protect the unions from accountability than provide representation people would electively pay for.

Sorta like if you’ve purchased a new car in the last few years the sales people and managers would sooner coerce you to give them all 10s on the manufacturer post sale survey than give genuinely good service that you would report favorably.

Josh

But the salesman sounded so sincere when he called to see how I was doing......and don't forget the survey ...you saying these union peeps are shysters?

 

[ALUS78]

My prediction is that the AMT’s of American Airlines will continue to be pestered by 2 Trolls from another Airline and a goofball Ramper from their own Airline far more than any of them will actually converse amongst themselves.

Maybe one day the 3 of us idiots should leave these people alone? But none of us are planning to are we.

Who knows maybe Tim will use his energy .resources and large following to get rid of the Ass for fleet especially if MTC is sucessful

 

[737823]

But the salesman sounded so sincere when he called to see how I was doing......and don't forget the survey ...you saying these union peeps are shysters?

I’m saying they by and large don’t support democracy for their constituents. They want closed shop, dues check-off to let them slide by with meager performance while their bloated bureaucracy thrives and the appointed leaders get cushy salaries with no accountability.

Again AA PAYS YOU. On the other hand YOU PAY the IAM.

Josh

 

[ALUS78]

I’m saying they by and large don’t support democracy for their constituents. They want closed shop, dues check-off to let them slide by with meager performance while their bloated bureaucracy thrives and the appointed leaders get cushy salaries with no accountability.

Again AA PAYS YOU. On the other hand YOU PAY the IAM.

Josh

Excellent post

 

[B737 driver]

My prediction is that the AMT’s of American Airlines will continue to be pestered by 2 Trolls from another Airline and a goofball Ramper from their own Airline far more than any of them will actually converse amongst themselves.

Maybe one day the 3 of us idiots should leave these people alone? But none of us are planning to are we.

Troll ,if they get it done more power to them. That frees up more time for the Association to concentrate on ramp, which is the bigger group. It's harder to please the maintenance group, than ramp personal.

 

[ALUS78]

These gals just LOVE to get in a good hearty hysterical laugh.

laugh all you want the ASS is in a precarious position....precarious indeed

 

[ALUS78]

Troll ,if they get it done more power to them. That frees up more time for the Association to concentrate on ramp, which is the bigger group. It's harder to please the maintenance group, than ramp personal.

This is why I dont care for union people they are arrogant,know it all and condescending .Well they are about to ge theirs

 

[WeAAsles]

Who knows maybe Tim will use his energy .resources and large following to get rid of the Ass for fleet especially if MTC is sucessful

One “millisecond” after we hear that the JCBA’s have passed Al. $$$$$$$MONEY, MONEY,MONEY$$$$$$$$ That’s ALL any of them really care about.

The crickets will be a chirping softly.

 

[ALUS78]

One “millisecond” after we hear that the JCBA’s have passed Al. $$$$$$$MONEY, MONEY,MONEY$$$$$$$$ That’s ALL any of them really care about.

The crickets will be a chirping softly.

I 100% agree ...well when are we going to see it.It is like Josh said it will be done hastily and be subpar the AMTS effectively lit a match under Sitos ass

 

[WeAAsles]

Troll ,if they get it done more power to them. That frees up more time for the Association to concentrate on ramp, which is the bigger group. It's harder to please the maintenance group, than ramp personal.

Blah Blah Blah man. Now go and start your own useless drive in your own house. IBT is your gal right? Don’t answer. Please don’t answer. Blah Blah Blah.

 

[Tim Nelson]

Who knows maybe Tim will use his energy .resources and large following to get rid of the Ass for fleet especially if MTC is sucessful

Time will tell, but I really don't want to get rid of the association prior to a JCBA.

 

[Tim Nelson]

I’m saying they by and large don’t support democracy for their constituents. They want closed shop, dues check-off to let them slide by with meager performance while their bloated bureaucracy thrives and the appointed leaders get cushy salaries with no accountability.

Again AA PAYS YOU. On the other hand YOU PAY the IAM.

Josh

In Illinois, some consvative cities have passed "Right to Work" Ordinances. The unions challenged it, it's now in court. Guess who is arguing it? Yep, the same firm that argued Janus. It claims that there is nothing in the federal NLRA that prohibits a city from having 'right to work'. Let's see how that goes. If it is successful, then it will eat bad unions alive, even in states like Illinois that are not right to work.

 

[ALUS78]

In Illinois, some consvative cities have passed "Right to Work" Ordinances. The unions challenged it, it's now in court. Guess who is arguing it? Yep, the same firm that argued Janus. It claims that there is nothing in the federal NLRA that prohibits a city from having 'right to work'. Let's see how that goes. If it is successful, then it will eat bad unions alive, even in states likseeme Illinois that are not right to work.

Tim I blame this entire debacle on Sito is there any other way then an election he could be ousted? It seems to me they nepotism could be considered unethical