American Airlines and Labor Negotiations

[CremaDiLimone]

yes, the guy on jetnet...actually, he said aa spent $9 billion on buy-backs last year.

ok...maybe parker and isom speak with forked tongue to union, but speaking with forked tongue to shareholders..and doctoring financials for secret buy-backs isn't a good thing with the SEC.

like i said, the company reads that and laughs their asse$ off.

the company kept a steady $7 billion of cash on hand last year..they actually stopped buying back shares in 2, maybe last 3 quarters of 2018 because they were nervous about jet fuel and going under their $7 billion cash on hand threshold.

where that guy came up with his numbers, not sure. i can guarantee you that the company has not spent $19 billion on buy-backs.

 

[MetalMover]

Here’s the funny thing I see about the Airline Forums posters. For years they were screaming because they hated life under Jim “Chicken” Little and how the AMFA at least went down fighting tough at NWA and the reverence people had for that bold move.

Now you finally got someone leading the charge talking tough and you guys all become shrinking violets.

That’s why none of you have any credibility. You’re all FOS.

Anyway go sign an AMP card ok. LMFAO.

I don’t like the TWU no matter who is charge.
But let’s just stick to the topic of BLOODIEST AND UGLIEST LABOR BATTLE. (all caps). What does big mouth mean? Are heads going be broken? I really want to know.

WeAAZ, since you are the patron saint of TWU, do you agree with ANY violent approach to negotiations?
Simple question.

Btw, you are a forum poster too. You’ve reminded me on more than one occasion not to live in the past. so big mouth and his boy toy petersen should not bring up what we lost starting in 2003.

 

[WeAAsles]

yes, the guy on jetnet...actually, he said aa spent $9 billion on buy-backs last year.

ok...maybe parker and isom speak with forked tongue to union, but speaking with forked tongue to shareholders..and doctoring financials for secret buy-backs isn't a good thing with the SEC.

like i said, the company reads that and laughs their asse$ off.

the company kept a steady $7 billion of cash on hand last year..they actually stopped buying back shares in 2, maybe last 3 quarters of 2018 because they were nervous about jet fuel and going under their $7 billion cash on hand threshold.

where that guy came up with his numbers, not sure. i can guarantee you that the company has not spent $19 billion on buy-backs.

AC works here in MIA. Good guy but gets a little OCD at times. He’s also one of those Grammar Nazis.

Yea I did think his numbers were quite a bit off.

Oh and I’m sure the Company reads lots of postings and laughs their collective asses off.

 

[CremaDiLimone]

i understand...i get what he's trying to say.

 

[anotherdelay]

what buffons. can someone specifically mention for fleet service what jobs are being lost? Are we keeping cargo, lavs, bagroom, part time caps. etc....operationally everyone knows these guys are spreading everyone out, the equipment out, and its a mess. the wrong guys are in the wrong spots. anyway neither here nor there. I hate the videos i want specifics. Write it down.

 

[swamt]

Jetnet LGA Town Hall meeting

Oh great. Another GP outburst?? Wonderful.

I was happy that now things are coming to a head. It would be nice if the video was shared.....
Again I ask where was the iam leadership? Where was sito and company? Where is the solidarity? Its time to boot the iam its clear they are not interested in any form of public support. Again i ask why do we need them?

Yes. Pls post the video

There has been video being shared behind the scenes. I expect it will likely soon come out publicly?

Post the video weezal.

 

[wings396]

I finally got to watch the LGA town hall meeting. I have no issue with the top brass speaking up on our behalf, but it was very unprofessional to say the least. They really did make us all look like a bunch of Bafoons. You can get the point across to Isom without shouting and repeating yourself. It couldn't have looked worse, with the president of the local turning around backwards to read off what he wanted to say. Get yourself together, have the notes in front of you, and face the guy who you're engaging with in conversation. I could have looked more professional when I was in HS.
If this is the approach that they bring to the table, we're screwed even worse than I thought.
I'm willing to bet that 98% of the people in the room were rolling their eyes for the entire rant.
Hell, I was embarrassed just by watching the video.

 

[swamt]

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ABSOLUTELY SUCKS!!!

Hoo

Real tough talk from Jmmy Hoffa wannabe. He's a big mouth who can shut down the bus and rail system in NYC because there is only one game in town. He is affected by the Taylor Law which is NOTHING like the Railway Labor Act. The feds can keep us on ice indefinitely.
So let the big mouth blow hard and his boy toy Petersen try to get the troops to rise up. Good luck with that!
He's probably happy with mechanics working for both the airline and MTA saying double the dues.!

DO NOT STRIKE M&M. Stay at work, work the o/t, work the planes, just as normal as we always do each and every day. Be sure to stay compliant and safe.

Great sound bite. But should the day come where we are allowed to strike,
we walk out the door, they impose their terms, and replace workers. Will the big mouth still get paid?

Bloodiest ugliest labor battle? That would imply the bats are coming out and heads will be broken! REALLY?
please! LMFAO!

That day will NEVER come. AA to big for gov to allow a strike.

 

[bigjets]

That idiot was set up. You would have thought that he was able to figure out why the company chose to go to LGA after a few years. And you would have thought that he would have figured out that something was up with how they let him blab away and have the platform. Isom tried baiting him 3 times, and the company cameras showed him. Samuelson stayed silent but the third time Isom baited him good and Samuleson was incited and said exactly what Isom was wanting him to say. "We will bloody the nose of this comany' "Shut'r down". This video will be sent to the judge as AMPLE proof and we can now be 100% certain that an injunction will be ordered before the weekend. What a dummy. I keep saying that these guys are their own worse enemy. Cripes, as I was watching the video, immediately I knew what the company was attempting to do as soon as I saw Samuelson in the room. There was a reason why they let him in and let him have the floor. Bad move by Samuelson but he is young, inexperienced, and has no idea how this stuff works.

I disagree, this was an obvious setup by Samuelson to yell at, get his talking points out, try to embarrass and then walk out with members in a show of unity. We aren’t 1950s longshoremen, who can be replaced with just anyone.

 

[bigjets]

Wow I’ve never seen you this angry. I’m very sorry that the TWU has decided to fight for all those future “dues payers”. I like to call them kids myself.

Anyway sit back and relax. Eventually the ride always comes to an end.

There’s fighting, and then there is being a goof

 

[WeAAsles]

i understand...i get what he's trying to say.

I saw your response to him. I did ask him for a link to the information he spoke of.

 

[Buck]

As a Fleet service i hope we can get a better deal by holding out n i also hope our maint.personal do the same.

Yes, the mechanics do not mind taking a hit for our fellow union members.

 

[ALUS78]

If this guy is one of the leaders of this so call association he’s a freaking moron. No wonder no progress is being made because he’s acting like 3 year old.
The reason we have the information we have now is because the company got tired of the lies from these guys saying little progress was being made yet many items had been TA, but oh god don’t touch the pension or those future dues guys got to protect them and the rest be damned.
Go ahead you moron shut it down and see just how far that gets you.

Yes after all the loud BS it wiuld be funny if Peterson and his boys wereinterpreting the scope offer wronw.There is definitely some confusion there that needs to be clear

 

[ALUS78]

Here’s the funny thing I see about the Airline Forums posters. For years they were screaming because they hated life under Jim “Chicken” Little and how the AMFA at least went down fighting tough at NWA and the reverence people had for that bold move.

Now you finally got someone leading the charge talking tough and you guys all become shrinking violets.

That’s why none of you have any credibility. You’re all FOS.

Anyway go sign an AMP card ok. LMFAO.

Finally some good advice from the Weez.You know AMTS you really are foolish to not to at least try to get out of this association.i mean is someone going to have to hold a welding torch to your balls or what

 

[robbedagain]

Yes, the mechanics do not mind taking a hit for our fellow union members.

Actually thats not the intent. My intent is to see both Maint. and Fleet get fair best deals