AMFA FILES ON AIR CANADA

[SWAMECH]

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This is another false report by IAM. Notice they DO NOT apply any quotes from the actual CIRB. Now lets educate everyone on how it really went in AMFA's favor on this ruling AND how many years it goes back under the failed IAM representation at Air Canada. And read the real story not made up misinformation once again from the industrial unions. Note para's labeled [89] & [103] from CIRB's release. And also note the clever comment by AMFA near the end, and I quote, "Once AMFA is confirmed as your certified bargaining agent, we will work to win a contract that your skill and dedication deserve." Hmmmmm, what does AMFA already know folks??? Happy reading...

Air Canada Update from AMFA National President [td] Nov 19, 2025​ ​ ​ November 19, 2025​ Dear Air Canada Aircraft Maintenance Engineers and Skilled Trade Professionals: On November 18, 2025, the Canada Industrial Relations Board (CIRB) released its final order confirming the fragmentation of the Air Canada TMOS Unit. The Board had been in possession of the complete briefing record since February, and its decision reflects careful consideration and analysis. We thank our members for their continued patience. The Board’s decision first acknowledged Air Canada maintenance employees’ ongoing dissatisfaction with the IAMAW’s representation: [89] The Board recognizes from the submissions and evidence on file that many members within the technical group are and have been unhappy with the IAMAW’s representation of their interests for many years, which has bred dissatisfaction and contempt among some of the members.​ The Board then proceeded to document the history of dysfunction within the TMOS unit, stemming from the divergent interests of maintenance and non-maintenance employees. It relied on a 2011 report by government-appointed observer Madam Justice Louise Otis that documented maintenance employees’ long-standing complaints of under-representation by the IAMAW and the difficulties that the structure of the TMOS bargaining unit produced at the bargaining table. Bargaining in 2015-16, 2018-19, and 2022-23 had also been characterized by member dissatisfaction and dissention. The Board also relied on statements by the IAMAW’s own representatives that unequivocally acknowledged the persistent dysfunction within the TMOS unit. IAMAW General Vice President Stan Pickthall, in 2018, wrote to other union executives describing the “difficult situation” created by groups with “opposing views of how to approach negotiations.” IAMAW President Brian Bryant, in 2024, placed TMOS District Lodge 140 into an ongoing supervision status citing internal conflicts at the bargaining table. Additionally, the Board relied on Air Canada’s own response to AMFA’s application, which confirmed that the maintenance-only unit proposed by AMFA aligned with the Company’s regulatory obligations as both an Air Operator (AO) and Aircraft Maintenance Organization (AMO). It further noted the distinct terms and conditions of employment provided for maintenance employees under the Air Canada-IAMAW collective agreement. The Board’s factors for bargaining unit construction include “the community of interest, employee mobility, the history of collective bargaining, methods of administration of the business and the viability of the proposed unit(s).” Reviewing its previous decisions related to the Air Canada TMOS unit, the Board concluded the following: [103] In this case, the Board is of the view that the realities faced by the TMOS unit have significantly changed since its previous decision in 2005. In reviewing the various factors it relied on in Air Canada 341 in light of the submissions and the evidence filed in this application, the Board finds that there are now compelling reasons that warrant fragmenting the existing TMOS unit.​ The Board’s decision reconfirms certification of the following bargaining unit: All Air Canada Technical Services Business Unit employees, and excluding employees in the Airport & Cargo Operations Business Unit and Logistics & Supply Business Unit; and all management positions.​ AMFA could not be prouder of this result. The Board’s decision reflects an enormous victory for Air Canada maintenance employees as well as AMEs and skilled aviation professionals across Canada. There is more hard work ahead. The IAMAW continues to pursue legal challenges to the Board’s decision, using your dues to finance its obstructionist strategies. By court order, the CIRB cannot release vote results until these legal challenges have been resolved. Once AMFA is confirmed as your certified bargaining agent, we will work to win a contract that your skill and dedication deserve. Thank you again for your support and encouragement. We believe that critical work belongs in the hands of qualified, unionized professionals—like you. AMFA will continue to provide updates on the certification process as new information becomes available. Sincerely, Bret Oestreich National President

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[WeAAsles]

Again selling the AMFA ONLY propaganda. Anyway I really don’t give a shiyte since it has nothing to do with my Union anyway.

But God Damn are you quick and ready to pounce to sell the dreams.

 

[SWAMECH]

Again selling the AMFA ONLY propaganda. Anyway I really don’t give a shiyte since it has nothing to do with my Union anyway.

But God Damn are you quick and ready to pounce to sell the dreams.

Not selling anything. Simply fixing misinformation from the IAM that YOU decided to post and spread WITHOUT checking it's content first and foremost. And lets see here Weez, since it has (shiyte) NOTHING to do with your union anyway, why did YOU decide to post it? Huh?? Please explain that one to all of us. We all know it was because (as you read it and written by the IAM-and yet completely false) that you will still take any chance you get to try and discredit or defame AMFA in any way possible while they are overwhelmingly taking over the mechanics and related fields within the airline, FBO and heavy aircraft maint centers in the industry. Soon, AMFA will have 3 more airlines to add to the list of many airline mechanics groups firing their old dilapidated and self ruling industrial unions.
I know it hurts your ego tremendously when AMFA keeps growing and winning in the Mechanic and Related Airline industry, but don't fall into the fake and false propaganda like the other morons on here have.

 

[WeAAsles]

Not selling anything. Simply fixing misinformation from the IAM that YOU decided to post and spread WITHOUT checking it's content first and foremost. And lets see here Weez, since it has (shiyte) NOTHING to do with your union anyway, why did YOU decide to post it? Huh?? Please explain that one to all of us. We all know it was because (as you read it and written by the IAM-and yet completely false) that you will still take any chance you get to try and discredit or defame AMFA in any way possible while they are overwhelmingly taking over the mechanics and related fields within the airline, FBO and heavy aircraft maint centers in the industry. Soon, AMFA will have 3 more airlines to add to the list of many airline mechanics groups firing their old dilapidated and self ruling industrial unions.
I know it hurts your ego tremendously when AMFA keeps growing and winning in the Mechanic and Related Airline industry, but don't fall into the fake and false propaganda like the other morons on here have.

I can’t stand AMFA. Actually it’s the scumbag Lawfirm that’s really AMFA that I can’t stand. The vampires 🧛‍♀️ that have been sucking the lifeblood from the rubes that buy their scams. Seeham, Seeham, Meltz and Peterson.

And I’m not a fan of the “structure” of the IAM either. I know a few good people and reps inside of it but that’s it. Personally I find them to be ridiculously top heavy (spending) and find little of what’s paid in dues goes back to the Membership. They’re great at Boeing but I haven’t really been impressed in other areas.

Anyway as I said in the other thread you’re still nothing but a one sided propagandist. And my guess is you’re really someone associated with the SSM&P scam.

Carry on Superman.

 

[WeAAsles]

Not selling anything. Simply fixing misinformation from the IAM that YOU decided to post and spread WITHOUT checking it's content first and foremost. And lets see here Weez, since it has (shiyte) NOTHING to do with your union anyway, why did YOU decide to post it? Huh?? Please explain that one to all of us. We all know it was because (as you read it and written by the IAM-and yet completely false) that you will still take any chance you get to try and discredit or defame AMFA in any way possible while they are overwhelmingly taking over the mechanics and related fields within the airline, FBO and heavy aircraft maint centers in the industry. Soon, AMFA will have 3 more airlines to add to the list of many airline mechanics groups firing their old dilapidated and self ruling industrial unions.
I know it hurts your ego tremendously when AMFA keeps growing and winning in the Mechanic and Related Airline industry, but don't fall into the fake and false propaganda like the other morons on here have.

BTW how’s those card drives going over at American, Delta, United and JetBlue even?

Yea yea I know any day now they’ll be a filing.

Blah blah blah. 😑

 

[SWAMECH]

I can’t stand AMFA. Actually it’s the scumbag Lawfirm that’s really AMFA that I can’t stand. The vampires 🧛‍♀️ that have been sucking the lifeblood from the rubes that buy their scams. Seeham, Seeham, Meltz and Peterson.

And I’m not a fan of the “structure” of the IAM either. I know a few good people and reps inside of it but that’s it. Personally I find them to be ridiculously top heavy (spending) and find little of what’s paid in dues goes back to the Membership. They’re great at Boeing but I haven’t really been impressed in other areas.

Anyway as I said in the other thread you’re still nothing but a one sided propagandist. And my guess is you’re really someone associated with the SSM&P scam.

Carry on Superman.

And there you have it. You completely avoided everything I pointed out that YOU and the IAM did wrong or posted misinformation. Your dodging speaks volumes.

 

[SWAMECH]

BTW how’s those card drives going over at American, Delta, United and JetBlue even?

Yea yea I know any day now they’ll be a filing.

Blah blah blah. 😑

AA, JB, still collecting since the judge ruled more members at each carrier as more cards are needed. There is no card drive currently at United. The members at United are wanting AMFA back, but haven't heard of an actual card drive starting as of yet at this point and time. There is no card drive at Delta either and there probably never will be as they keep using the other unions, as a tool to them, calling them saying there is a need to get unionized and put it out in the media that they are starting a card drive, then, Delta gets word and steps in and fixes the probs they are complaining about, and even throws some extra $$ their way to keep them quiet. Works every time and has for decades. This is how Delta will always remain union free, except for who is currently represented at Delta.
Now, at Air Canada, per AMFA it looks like they will be bringing in AMFA soon as they await the final decisions and clearing of all rulings by the CIRB, as you already seen by the AMFA National press releases. No blah blah blah here chief, just the facts and no misinformation... 🙂

 

[WeAAsles]

AA, JB, still collecting since the judge ruled more members at each carrier as more cards are needed. There is no card drive currently at United. The members at United are wanting AMFA back, but haven't heard of an actual card drive starting as of yet at this point and time. There is no card drive at Delta either and there probably never will be as they keep using the other unions, as a tool to them, calling them saying there is a need to get unionized and put it out in the media that they are starting a card drive, then, Delta gets word and steps in and fixes the probs they are complaining about, and even throws some extra $$ their way to keep them quiet. Works every time and has for decades. This is how Delta will always remain union free, except for who is currently represented at Delta.
Now, at Air Canada, per AMFA it looks like they will be bringing in AMFA soon as they await the final decisions and clearing of all rulings by the CIRB, as you already seen by the AMFA National press releases. No blah blah blah here chief, just the facts and no misinformation... 🙂

Keep plugging away for AA. After 63 years of trying I’m sure the dream will be realized someday. 🥜

 

[SWAMECH]

Keep plugging away for AA. After 63 years of trying I’m sure the dream will be realized someday. 🥜

Hasn't been 63 years weez and you know this. Stop with the misinformation man, it really is getting old.

 

[WeAAsles]

Hasn't been 63 years weez and you know this. Stop with the misinformation man, it really is getting old.

O.V (AA Mechanic) started AMFA with the intent of replacing the TWU 63 years ago. He was successful at other Airlines but was never successful at his own Airline.

If you choose to cheerlead so strongly for AMFA you should learn it’s History.

Of course this is their version of that History.

AMFA's History

O.V.

www.amfanational.org

 

[SWAMECH]

O.V (AA Mechanic) started AMFA with the intent of replacing the TWU 63 years ago. He was successful at other Airlines but was never successful at his own Airline.

If you choose to cheerlead so strongly for AMFA you should learn it’s History.

Of course this is their version of that History.

AMFA's History

O.V.

www.amfanational.org

That's simply when he started the AMFA process.
And again you still avoid the issues being discussed from 5-6 post ago. You continuously try to distract and deflect (just like the other morons on here) and avoid any and all issues brought up that are false and misinformation about AMFA. Keeps speaking volumes about your agenda...

 

[WeAAsles]

That's simply when he started the AMFA process.
And again you still avoid the issues being discussed from 5-6 post ago. You continuously try to distract and deflect (just like the other morons on here) and avoid any and all issues brought up that are false and misinformation about AMFA. Keeps speaking volumes about your agenda...

 

[SWAMECH]

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Still avoiding when confronted weez, speaks volumes.

 

[WeAAsles]

Still avoiding when confronted weez, speaks volumes.

Fruitcake. Go suck your AMFA sausages.

 

[SWAMECH]

Fruitcake. Go suck your AMFA sausages.

WOW! How professional of you weez. The truth hurts bro.!! And now you have reverted to name calling and other disrespectful messages. And STILL NEVER answer the issues in front of you. Still speaking volumes to all of us...