Amr Outsourcing

Hopeful

Veteran
Dec 21, 2002
5,998
347
Associated Press
American Adds to Its Work Force in Mexico
Friday February 27, 5:19 pm ET
By Brad Foss, AP Business Writer
American Airline's Customer Service Work Force Grows in Mexico, Shrinks in U.S.


WASHINGTON (AP) -- American Airlines is adding to its work force in Mexico and rerouting calls there that were formerly handled by domestic customer service representatives -- even as it has been cutting similar jobs in the United States.
ADVERTISEMENT


Since last spring, AMR Corp., the carrier's parent company, has hired about 130 reservation agents in Mexico to handle calls from Spanish-speaking customers in the United States and Latin America, the company acknowledged Friday.

Meanwhile, AMR recently informed about 100 workers at a call center in Puerto Rico that the San Juan office would be shut down this spring. In the past year, AMR also has closed reservation offices in Las Vegas, Norfolk, Va., and St. Louis, which together had employed about 1,400 people.

Contacted by The Associated Press earlier in the week about a general increase in industry jobs being sent overseas, AMR said calls from the United States were not being rerouted to other countries.

AMR said Friday that it unintentionally misspoke at the time, but that the growth of its Mexico operations has not come at the expense of U.S. workers.

United Airlines said this week it had signed a contract with Electronic Data Systems to open a customer call center in Nova Scotia that will eventually employ 200. A spokeswoman said it was the first time United would outsource such work. Travelocity, the online travel site owned by Sabre Inc., said this month that it will outsource about 300 jobs to India over the next year. Delta Air Lines outsourced nearly 1,000 jobs last year to call centers in India.

AMR's decision to hire more Mexican workers is one example of how the world's largest carrier is cutting costs at a time when the industry is losing money. The Fort Worth, Texas-based airline lost $111 million in the last three months of 2003.

A full-time worker in Mexico gets paid about $400 a month, about one quarter what new hires in the United States would make, said Mike Lo Vuolo, an official with the Fort Worth, Texas, office of the Communications Workers of America.

The CWA is trying to unionize AMR's reservation agents, one of only two groups of AMR workers not represented by organized labor.

By rerouting calls once handled by Spanish-speaking and bilingual Americans to Mexico, AMR is turning its back on the domestic work force, particularly people who were furloughed after the Sept. 11 terrorist attacks, Lo Vuolo said.

"They've still got American employees that were furloughed and have recall rights," Lo Vuolo said. "There are still people here that could be handling calls that they're rerouting elsewhere."

AMR spokesman Carlo Bertolini, however, said the newly hired bilingual Mexican workers are not replacing actual jobs. Instead, employees who worked for AMR's now-defunct U.S.-based "Spanish desk" have merely seen their job responsibilities change.

"The people who did handle (Spanish language) calls in the U.S. were already doing other functions as well," Bertolini said. "That wasn't their sole job."

AMR's call center in Mexico City employs 290 people and also handles calls from Mexico, Spain and several Latin American countries. Latin America is AMR's largest international market.

www.aa.com




Email this story - Set a News Alert
 
"The people who did handle (Spanish language) calls in the U.S. were already doing other functions as well," Bertolini said. "That wasn't their sole job."

What a lame excuse.

There's still plenty of Spanish speaking US citizens, in the US, that could do these outsourced jobs.
 
  • Thread Starter
  • Thread starter
  • #4
looks like AMERICAN Airlines has joined the rest of corporate America in not just contracting work out, but sending it abroad!
 
  • Thread Starter
  • Thread starter
  • #6
Yes, I also think that around that time, the paychecks were processed at some place like Barbados.
 
Hopeful said:
looks like AMERICAN Airlines has joined the rest of corporate America in not just contracting work out, but sending it abroad!
out·source ( P ) Pronunciation Key (outsôrs, -srs)
tr.v. out·sourced, out·sourc·ing, out·sourc·es
To send out (work, for example) to an outside provider or manufacturer in order to cut costs.

There are no RES workers in Mexico City- or elsewhere - that are employed by an outside provider. They are AA employees.

Like it or not, AA is a global company. Gee - there are ticket agents in Zurich that are - gasp! - citizens of Switzerland. Perish the thought!
 
AA has always "butt kissed" the party that is in power at 1600 PA. ave.

So it does make sense that they CONTINUE "business as usual".

BUT,
On the "campaign trail", OUTSOURCING is mentioned more and more.
Couple that with THE FACT that "DUMBYA's" LAST day in office WILL BE 1/20/05, will put AA in somewhat of a dilemma.

Ah but DUMBYA need not worry, because AA will probably give him a job on AMR's BOD's. :down: :down: :down:

NH/BB's
 
orwell said:
There are no RES workers in Mexico City- or elsewhere - that are employed by an outside provider. They are AA employees.
Wrong again, Cochise. The res agents in Mexico City are employees of the company that contracted with AMR to do the work. Those people do not have any AA benefits.

Oh, and I think you will find that even in this country, a LOT of people who are wearing AA uniforms are not AA employees. At some of the smaller stations, like Birmingham, AL, ALL of the "AA workers"--ticket/gate agents, rampers-- are contract employees who make just a little more than minimum wage. They also are not eligible for AA company benefits. They don't even get discounted travel on AA, much less non-rev travel.

A friend of mine in Houston worked for Shell Oil for 25 years at which time her job was "outsourced" to another company. She still sits at the same desk, doing the same job, but she no longer has Shell benefits. She can't even collect her Shell pension unless she quits her job because of the IRS same-desk-same-job rule.
 
jimntx said:
orwell said:
There are no RES workers in Mexico City- or elsewhere - that are employed by an outside provider. They are AA employees.
Wrong again, Cochise. The res agents in Mexico City are employees of the company that contracted with AMR to do the work. Those people do not have any AA benefits.

Oh, and I think you will find that even in this country, a LOT of people who are wearing AA uniforms are not AA employees. At some of the smaller stations, like Birmingham, AL, ALL of the "AA workers"--ticket/gate agents, rampers-- are contract employees who make just a little more than minimum wage. They also are not eligible for AA company benefits. They don't even get discounted travel on AA, much less non-rev travel.

A friend of mine in Houston worked for Shell Oil for 25 years at which time her job was "outsourced" to another company. She still sits at the same desk, doing the same job, but she no longer has Shell benefits. She can't even collect her Shell pension unless she quits her job because of the IRS same-desk-same-job rule.
My name ain't Cochise, and BUR is another example of what you're talking about airport-wise in the States.

However, although I'm not sure about the level of benefits they get, the RES workers in Mexico City are actual AA employees.

The overall trend of outsourcing is troubling - if you expect to get full-fare wages while, as a consumer, paying Walmart prices. The reality is this is driven by consumers and their undying need for low prices.

If everyone truly cared about depressed wages and outsourcing, they'd pay a few extra dollars to support the higher standard of living that US workers feel they're entitled to.
 
;) Orwell------ Good point! But! A question do'es come to mind! Why should should upper management expect it's employees to subsidize low fares for the general public?
 
MCI transplant said:
;) Orwell------ Good point! But! A question do'es come to mind! Why should should upper management expect it's employees to subsidize low fares for the general public?
I'm with you on that - the employees should not have to subsidize the public's cravings for low fares - at least not alone/unequitably.

The problem is that these same employees, when not working and in "consumer" mode, probably often contribute to the forces that are threatening them. That is, they probably favor the company that gives them the cheapest prices when they're shopping - especially for big-ticket items. And that causes problems for the workers at those businesses - assuming, of course, that the goods or services in question can be cheapened by producing them "offshore." Some trades, like medicine, will always be immune from "outsourcing."

Ultimately, this trend will only stop when wages overseas rise to our levels or our wages sink to theirs. It's like water pouring through a hole in a dam - it will stop once the levels are equalized.

I guess the only way that's not true is if everyone in the US agrees to pay more to support US workers, but you know that ain't gonna happen.

Or, we could go isolationist and cease trading with other countries, which would probably do more harm than good.

I guess the lesson is when you see something priced delightfully low, you're probably going to end up paying for it in the long run. Pay now, or pay later - with lower wages.

I still don't think it's an airline's mgmt's fault for being forced to operate in this reality - when all your competitors are cutting costs and the LCC's have labor forces that have average seniorities of 1-5 years.
 
NewHampshire Black Bears said:
Couple that with THE FACT that "DUMBYA's" LAST day in office WILL BE 1/20/05, will put AA in somewhat of a dilemma.

Ah but DUMBYA need not worry, because AA will probably give him a job on AMR's BOD's. :down: :down: :down:

NH/BB's
Wow. Life will be great come Jan 20, 2005. All the outsourcing, which started on Jan 20, 2001, as you no doubt know, will come to a complete end. There was never any outsourcing before GWB came into office. Everything in the world was perfect. Gore was inventing the internet, Clinton was getting his you-know-what serviced in the Oval Orifice. Life was sweet. Kerry will assume dictatorial powers and rule, by fiat, that U.S. corporations can no longer employ them damned foreigners to do anything. He will also ban all imports from all countries. We will be 100% self sufficient and the foreigners will be so greatful that we refuse to do business with them that they will literally beg us for our products and pay twice the current prices. Jane Fonda will be Secretary of Defense. What else do the voices in your head tell you?
 
twasilverbullet said:
Vote for Kerry! :up:
Outsourcing of American jobs is not a new problem and John Kerry has been in the U.S.SENATE for 20 years and not addressed the problem.His wife owns a lot[million of Wal-Mart stock and they hate organized labor.Better take a closer look at his actions than listen to his words.
 

Latest posts

Back
Top