Another Lcc In Pittsburgh

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http://www.usatoday.com/travel/news/2005-0...t-airport_x.htm

Talks move forward with airlines and Pittsburgh airport


PITTSBURGH (AP) — Two more discount airlines may begin service at Pittsburgh International Airport and two carriers already operating from Pittsburgh may boost the number of flights offered, airport officials said.
JetBlue Airways, Frontier Airlines and Spirit Airlines have yet to follow Southwest Airlines, which announced Wednesday that it was opening service to Pittsburgh in May.

"Two of those three have talked with us on an increasing basis," said Kent George, executive director of the Allegheny County Airport Authority.

It has not been disclosed which of the two are involved in negotiations, nor which two airlines already serving the airport might expand their service.

But state Rep. Tom Stevenson, who sits on the authority board, said talks with the latter are in the advanced stage.

"There are two, and one is dead serious," he said.

Low-cost carriers began stepping up service as US Airways, the dominant airline in Pittsburgh, has slashed service.

US Airways is attempting to emerge from bankruptcy and removed Pittsburgh as one of its three hubs late last year.

Pittsburgh now has several low-cost airlines including AirTran, Independence Air, ATA and USA3000.

 

[pitflyer]

Probably AirTran adding a destination or two. Second bet would be Frontier.

 

[Singleflyer]

So which one will be flying to Altoona or Erie? Just to the low yeild Fla cities

 

[NeedForSpeed]

http://www.usatoday.com/travel/news/2005-0...t-airport_x.htm

Talks move forward with airlines and Pittsburgh airport
PITTSBURGH (AP) — Two more discount airlines may begin service at Pittsburgh International Airport and two carriers already operating from Pittsburgh may boost the number of flights offered, airport officials said.
JetBlue Airways, Frontier Airlines and Spirit Airlines have yet to follow Southwest Airlines, which announced Wednesday that it was opening service to Pittsburgh in May.

"Two of those three have talked with us on an increasing basis," said Kent George, executive director of the Allegheny County Airport Authority.

It has not been disclosed which of the two are involved in negotiations, nor which two airlines already serving the airport might expand their service.

But state Rep. Tom Stevenson, who sits on the authority board, said talks with the latter are in the advanced stage.

"There are two, and one is dead serious," he said.

Low-cost carriers began stepping up service as US Airways, the dominant airline in Pittsburgh, has slashed service.

US Airways is attempting to emerge from bankruptcy and removed Pittsburgh as one of its three hubs late last year.

Pittsburgh now has several low-cost airlines including AirTran, Independence Air, ATA and USA3000.

[post="237585"][/post]​

Jetblue and Spirit are big here in FLL, thats great news!!

 

[USA320Pilot]

The AP neglected to add that on July 1, 2005 US Airways will be the largest LCC operating at Pittsburgh International Airport.

Regards,

USA320Pilot

 

[NeedForSpeed]

The AP neglected to add that on July 1, 2005 US Airways will be the largest LCC operating at Pittsburgh International Airport.

Regards,

USA320Pilot

[post="237826"][/post]​

IF......and that is a big IF,320....They survive!! GOOD DAY!!!

 

[BoeingBoy]

The AP neglected to add that on July 1, 2005 US Airways will be the largest LCC operating at Pittsburgh International Airport.

Regards,

USA320Pilot

[post="237826"][/post]​

FlyI is the largest LCC flying out of IAD - hasn't seemed to do them much good yet. And before you start in on "but they're flying RJ's", just take a look at what equipment operates over 2/3 of our flights at PIT.

Jim

ps - you've mentioned several times in several threads that "US Airways" will have a CASM lower than LUV and Airtran but higher than JetBlue. I'd love to see that supported with numbers......

 

[HPearlyretiree]

Have you all forgot about Ed "Mr. Bankruptcy" Beauvais and his great "Project Roam" airline to be based in PIT?

If you ever meet him, keep one hand on your wallet!

 

[lowfareair]

you've mentioned several times in several threads that "US Airways" will have a CASM lower than LUV and Airtran but higher than JetBlue. I'd love to see that supported with numbers......

[post="237834"][/post]​

Didn't you know... if management says it it must be true! Time to bend over mechs, management says it feels even better without lube...

 

[DLFlyer31]

The AP neglected to add that on July 1, 2005 US Airways will be the largest LCC operating at Pittsburgh International Airport.

Regards,

USA320Pilot

[post="237826"][/post]​

That's because US won't be an LCC.

Even with all these cuts (pay and other), US's CASM is actually rising in many markets. Why? Because as fast as US is cutting costs, they are cutting capacity, so CASM doesn't change nearly as much as you think.

Here's an example:

Old USAirways: Flies 500 seats from airport XYZ and it costs $6,000 a day to operate from that airport. The cost per departing seat is $12.

New USAirways: Cuts capacity, slashes pay, reduces rents, etc., and now only pays $2,400 a day to operate from the airport. However, US now only offers 200 seats a day on RJ's. The cost per departing seat is $12.

So despite all the cost cutting, US's actual cost per seat hasn't budged.

Of course, my numbers are fictional and there are definitely markets where US has added capacity. But most US markets have not seen capacity grow.

 

[Reservation Agent]

I am guessing it will be Jetblue

 

[wench]

MOST OF THE USAIR MIS-FITS ARE AT SPIRIT AIR>>>


OY VEY!!!!

 

[tadjr]

Here's an example:


New USAirways: Cuts capacity, reduces rents, etc., and now only pays $2,400 a day to operate from the airport.

[post="237951"][/post]​

And in some cities, cuts capacity and keeps all gate and terminal space just sitting there empty. Either use it or dump it. 7 gates for 27 flights a day? How long unitl they add flights to use the extra gates sitting empty 24/7 or dump them?
I would a$$ume that the empty gate $pace add$ up rather quickly.

 

[lostplanetairman]

MOST OF THE USAIR MIS-FITS ARE AT SPIRIT AIR>>>
OY VEY!!!!

[post="239220"][/post]​

VERY wrong! There is a lot of top talent there flying the airplanes! Some are even in the current new hire class!

 

[Winglet]

U is going to be a low-pay, but still high-cost airline. If they want to compete with JB and WN, they're going to have to slash about 30% off the pilots and another 20% from everyone else. Someone's got to pay for that $45 fuel, all those high cost RJs, and a business model that's no different from before . . . . and that someone is going to be what's left of U employees. Don't worry, the Mexican labor doing maintenance on the aircraft and the secretaries signing it off, will do just fine . . . . I guess . . . . maybe . . . . hopefully.