Arbitrator to rule on MidAtlantic tomorrow

[HighFlyerMiami]

Arbitrator Krinsky has informed the System Board that he will issue his decision in the Wexford/Republic arbitration this Friday, November 18. MDA pilots should know that in light of this development, ALPA was successful in convincing the Company to extend the deadline for updating your preferences. All preference updates must now be received by midnight, November 20, 2005. The next Republic class on November 30 will consist of 8 Captains and 8 First Officers.

 

[RowUnderDCA]

Is there any scenario regarding the issuance of the arbitrator's decision that could result in the disintegration of the Republic deal? You know, something along the lines of Wexford and LCC ending their relationship entirely, with LCC transitioning other aircraft to replace 170s going to Wexford to be flown for other carriers; or LCC retaining some of the 170s?

Any chance?

 

[DCAflyer]

Is there any scenario regarding the issuance of the arbitrator's decision that could result in the disintegration of the Republic deal? You know, something along the lines of Wexford and LCC ending their relationship entirely, with LCC transitioning other aircraft to replace 170s going to Wexford to be flown for other carriers; or LCC retaining some of the 170s?

Any chance?

As I understand it, Wexford/Republic was authorized by IBT to offer 50% J4J positions. However, if the pilots win, that means 100% of the pilot jobs must go to the "purchasing entity" (Wexford/Republic) under the current contract provisions (pay, seniority integration, benefits, bidding, etc.). I also believe that it requires ALPA representation, but again, not sure about that.

Here's where it gets sticky. I think IBT would be loathe to allow ALPA on their property, and further give away 100% of what they perceive is their flying. So, unless Republic can offer them something in return for giving up contract provisions AND for letting ALPA in, I would think the deal will sink faster than the titanic.

 

[SoldWholeSale]

Item 1. I am disappointed to report that Arbitrator Krinsky’s decision in the Wexford/Republic grievance has upheld the Company’s position that the sale of MDA was an Aircraft Sales Event and not a Change of Control or an MDA Affiliate Event as argued by the Association. As such, vacancies at Republic will continue to be filled using the 50 percent Jets for Jobs provisions.

While the arbitrator’s decision is final and binding, ALPA will take the highly unusual step of filing a dissenting opinion. We strongly disagree with the finding of the arbitrator and feel that his ruling ignored much of the evidence and testimony that we provided during the arbitration.



Well, thats official..... We flying the Embraer 170's on the USAirways certificate were all wrong in not wanting to give up our jobs and aircraft to a third party carrier. I guess since it is a "sale of aircraft" event, and not a change of control, that it further proves there was never any such thing as MDA. It further lends merrit to the MDA pilots legal battle, and proof that we have been active AAA pilots all along who should have been subject to recall.

ALL OR NONE!

--sincerely bent over,

SH

 

[DCAflyer]

IT IS TIME FOR ALL MAA EMPLOYEES TO WALK OF THE JOB. WHY STAY?

 

[MarkMyWords]

Severence package and approval for unemployement are the first two things that come to mind.

 

[DCAflyer]

Severence package and approval for unemployement are the first two things that come to mind.

What? Are you talking about the $200 a month paid at the end if you stay? Do you really believe the company is going to pay that? Mark, I assure you they will find some way not to pay. Already, employees who leave are getting final checks for zero dollars and zero cents. A friend of mine got a final pay check for 11 cents. The company won't pay squat in the way of severance.

It's time for everyone to take a stand and walk off the job, rather than give the company one more second to put its ducks in a row and get those jets over to Republic. This is tantamount to training your own replacement and then getting fired. Don't give them the satisfaction.

Walk now!

 

[MarkMyWords]

And when you "walk off the job" you will be considered abandoning your job and will be fired. Then what? Your unemployment will be denied and what will you do then?

I don't agree with that whole MDA transaction.......but think logically and don't cut your nose to spite your face.

 

[careerfurloughee]

And when you "walk off the job" you will be considered abandoning your job and will be fired. Then what? Your unemployment will be denied and what will you do then?

I don't agree with that whole MDA transaction.......but think logically and don't cut your nose to spite your face.

Give two weeks notice and walk! It happens all the time in the real world.

 

[MarkMyWords]

do you get unemployment if you quit a job?

 

[careerfurloughee]

do you get unemployment if you quit a job?

Do you have a backbone if that is why you stay? What has happened to a once proud profession? You spent untold time, money and effort to get there and the reason to stay is unemployment? No wonder it has come to this!

 

[MarkMyWords]

Is a backbone going to put food on the table? Pay the mortgage? Car payment? Keep the lights on?

A good fight was fought. If you advocate a walk out, then you are shooting yourself in the foot as well. Look at the NWA mechanic strike....none of the striking mechanics have a job and NWA is still flying. NWA got more then the bargained for because they were able to replace everyone. I don't agree with what happened at NWA or at MDA, but walk off the job and principles aren't going to pay the bills.

 

[xoxo]

Has anyone heard anything yet? It is already 7pm....I thought a decision was to be made by 5pm?

 

[a320av8r]

Has anyone heard anything yet? It is already 7pm....I thought a decision was to be made by 5pm?

SEE POST #4...

Excerpt from ALPA Code A Phone.

 

[careerfurloughee]

Is a backbone going to put food on the table? Pay the mortgage? Car payment? Keep the lights on?

A good fight was fought. If you advocate a walk out, then you are shooting yourself in the foot as well. Look at the NWA mechanic strike....none of the striking mechanics have a job and NWA is still flying. NWA got more then the bargained for because they were able to replace everyone. I don't agree with what happened at NWA or at MDA, but walk off the job and principles aren't going to pay the bills.

These are very capable, well educated, highly capable people that can do better than unemployment wages. They just need to believe in themselves. I am so glad i got out. Have some pride and believe that there is better out there because there is. I submit that they will be better be able to put food on the table, pay the mortgage and car payment and keep the lights on the sooner they seek employment that compensates them at what they are worth.