As350 Problems?
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Is this a joke? Has anyone else heard this?? I certainly hope you are mistaken or joking. 
However I did hear that the OMNR has now put out a new rule that employees cannot fly in rotary wing aircraft with outside temperatures below -25c. This rule applies to both OMNR machines and contract operators. Maybe the 2 stories were somehow mixed up.
However I did hear that the OMNR has now put out a new rule that employees cannot fly in rotary wing aircraft with outside temperatures below -25c. This rule applies to both OMNR machines and contract operators. Maybe the 2 stories were somehow mixed up.If that is the case, I dont think many should have a problem as Hydraulics off should me part of recurrent and PPC each year. If its not I think theres issues and your company isnt doing a good job at keeping you current on emergencies.
Firehawk, where you been? There has been an AD out since last year about turning off hydraulics in the Astar. Nobody can turn them off for training.
There was another incident last week in ontario where an Astar had a hard left cyclic input. The pilot could not control it and turned the hyd back on, that's all I know. If he could not control it, that's probably why the two-pilot thing.
The new AD is not on the Transport website yet, but there were 7 ADs against the Astar last year with 8 against the B3. The 206L had none, and the 407 had one. You would think that after 25 years they'd do a little better than that. I wonder why anyone still buys these things, they are nothing but trouble and Aerospat doesn't support them at all. :down:
There was another incident last week in ontario where an Astar had a hard left cyclic input. The pilot could not control it and turned the hyd back on, that's all I know. If he could not control it, that's probably why the two-pilot thing.
The new AD is not on the Transport website yet, but there were 7 ADs against the Astar last year with 8 against the B3. The 206L had none, and the 407 had one. You would think that after 25 years they'd do a little better than that. I wonder why anyone still buys these things, they are nothing but trouble and Aerospat doesn't support them at all. :down:
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Good points WOXOF, it seems that after 26 years of Astars, some of these problems should have been taken care of by now, why are we seeing the same old issues time and time again.
Wake up Aerospat (EC) it's time to deal with the problems, start by designing a real HYD system !
Wake up Aerospat (EC) it's time to deal with the problems, start by designing a real HYD system !
Well I guess that there is a problem then :unsure: . I havent flown the Astar in 4 years, I guess that's why I didnt know about the AD on it.
Sorry about that, Well I guess its official now the 407 will be taking over the world since there will be nobody left to fly them in a years time.
Sorry about that, Well I guess its official now the 407 will be taking over the world since there will be nobody left to fly them in a years time.
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Are you at home relaxing this week Firehawk? We just had Dan C in the hangar for a visit, he told us some interesting stories about you from the NMH days !!!!!!
407, You let that character in your hanger? Oh thats bad news, Dont believe a word he says unless its all good.
He doesnt go by Dan, we refer to him as Mr.Flint. You can let your imagination run from there. Yes Iam relaxing at home till tomorrow then Iam off to the big city of Abbotsford for a day of flying. Then back to the Monashees to relax some more.
Its pretty hard to call that work there.
He doesnt go by Dan, we refer to him as Mr.Flint. You can let your imagination run from there. Yes Iam relaxing at home till tomorrow then Iam off to the big city of Abbotsford for a day of flying. Then back to the Monashees to relax some more.
Its pretty hard to call that work there.
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This is getting scary.
Everyone should just pull their heads out of their XXX and look at the big picture. All I see here is narrow minded views that haven't been listening or looking around them. Want to turn it into a Bell / Eurocopter fight? Bring it on.
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Not sure if this is the same thing or not…
TC put out an AD back in the summer (I believe) that said you could not turn the hydraulics off in the AStar for training. It stemmed from the OMNR accident last year. My understanding now is that this AD that is already out is going to severely impact operators that fly AStars because they can’t do ALL of the initial or recurrency training on the AStar.
I do know that TC met with Eurocopter in France last week to come up with a solution for this. TC is the only regulatory body to put the AD out! As a result there are several operators that I spoke with over the last little while that are going to Heli-Expo - they said that if there is not an amendment to the current AD to let them train with hydraulics off, they would be brining a few pilots to the show to do their training with a few of the AStar operators in the Las Vegas area.
TC put out an AD back in the summer (I believe) that said you could not turn the hydraulics off in the AStar for training. It stemmed from the OMNR accident last year. My understanding now is that this AD that is already out is going to severely impact operators that fly AStars because they can’t do ALL of the initial or recurrency training on the AStar.
I do know that TC met with Eurocopter in France last week to come up with a solution for this. TC is the only regulatory body to put the AD out! As a result there are several operators that I spoke with over the last little while that are going to Heli-Expo - they said that if there is not an amendment to the current AD to let them train with hydraulics off, they would be brining a few pilots to the show to do their training with a few of the AStar operators in the Las Vegas area.
Seems stupid to me to not allow you to train for a specific problem that might arise.
Imagine back when the Lycomings were puking day in and day out, if you weren't allowed to practice doing auto's, what then?
I personally think TC is out of answers so they do the next thing they can think of. For years the 350 has been running in extreme cold weather operations, why the sudden change? Could it be from a particular operators pressure? What better way to get budgeted for a new helicopter than to make sure the current fleet is grounded.
Imagine back when the Lycomings were puking day in and day out, if you weren't allowed to practice doing auto's, what then?
I personally think TC is out of answers so they do the next thing they can think of. For years the 350 has been running in extreme cold weather operations, why the sudden change? Could it be from a particular operators pressure? What better way to get budgeted for a new helicopter than to make sure the current fleet is grounded.
