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And this statement is the most profound in all of these discussions!!!

The enemy sees our weaknesses and division and fuels the pyre!

We can continue to be divided on our political differences, or we put these aside to unite against our common enemy!

The choice is ours!!!


The war on terrorism and the enemies of the West is partisan issue. The division that Bush created along with his National Security Council and administration giving inaccurate and misinformation on Saddam's role in 9/11 and the assumption that he had weapons of mass destruction has put us in a war we can't win. The minute we leave, the gov. will be over run and over thrown. Its not sustainable and there is no winning for the U.S. The world is to dependent on their oil and their wealth to fund random massive violance has no limits. There will be no epiphany for these extremists to decide to decrease in recruits in declaring Jihad. There is nothing to compell them to do so. They will not be converted to christianity.

Here we sit 3 years after the war started with 15,000 of our troops in Iraq doing a third consequtive rotation, 2,700 troops dead, 20,000 of our troops permanently injured, over 40,000 Iraqis dead, $315 billion $$ later, we now don't have the resources to stop Iran, or protect the U.S borders and institute proper and safe airline security.

Al Queda and the Taliban have now grown in numbers and strength and are causing civil unrest in Iraq.

As long as this administration is in command, there will be no end to this bloodshed in Iraq. The longer the U.S. occupy, the stronger and more wide spread in recruits around the world the jihad movment becomes.

This Administration mislead Congress and the American people that Iraq was a bigger threat than Osama, took their eye off the ball, and now we are stuck in Iraq in the middle of sectarian masacres and violence, limited troops unable to fight the real war and real global threat on all nations.

Its like having cancer mets and receiving "radiation therapy" on just your prostate.
 
Hey dell, you're PIMP is calling!
:lol: :lol:

Al Queda and the Taliban have now grown in numbers and strength and are causing civil unrest in Iraq.

As long as this administration is in command, there will be no end to this bloodshed in Iraq. The longer the U.S. occupy, the stronger and more wide spread in recruits around the world the jihad movment becomes.

Oh really?

I'll give you this:

Short version, al-Qaeda is on the run throughout most of the globe. Even Abu Musab Zarqawi, in charge of all al-Qaeda elements in Iraq, is on the run – as elements of his infrastructure are taken apart. Eight of Zarqawi’s top aides are dead. Twenty others have been captured. Zarqawi was unable to disrupt the elections on January 30, a serious loss for the terrorists. Al-Qaeda is still potent, as the attacks in Madrid proved, but they are clearly reacting to the multi-pronged offensive in the United States.

can't tell a player without a score card
 
Dell,

That's Bull shittt again.

Even the declassified documents (4 pages of 30 which Bush had to now release to the public because of the leak) indicate that the Taliban and Al Queda has grown much stonger. Terrorism threat and jihad recruits is on the rise globally since our presence in Iraq.

Heck, last month you were throwing internet articles attempting to justify Bush was right on Saddam having weapons of mass destruction...

The National Security Council and Bush himself has stated that Saddam was not responsible for 9/11 and had no weapons of mass destruction (which the intelligence community thought they did).

For every terrorist leader that's killed another one more barbaric takes his place...there is no end.

Its become a huge forest fire, and without new policy and stategy, we are throwing a bucket of water to douce the flames.
 
Osama's on Gitmo in cell block 12 in secrecy....news to come of his long term capture shortly before the '08 elections.
This is the only available picture known:
Now that's a picture of OBL that we would all love to see. If only it was true! :up:
 
Did anyone catch Bill C on Larry King last week? He surprised me and did not attack W. He actually said W has a chance of winning this thing. Time for us all to put our egos away on this and support our Troops and the efforts behind them. We are aware of the Muslim Radical problem and if we don't act acordingly, 'Katie Bar the Door'. JMO
 
LOL... :lol:
Hey "Real American"???? When are you signing to enlist? Your so "gun ho" on fighting the war in IRAQ to catch you a terrorist...go there and join the fight like a "Real American"! :up:

The "Real American" name isn't one that I coined. I was responding to another post who was looking for a "Real American" to step up.
As for enlisting I already did my time in uniform for this country. I've got the scars to prove it....wanna see 'em?

😛
 
Jihad movement is on the rise and breeding more now globally; all over the world. They are not just centralized in Iraq like this administration believes.

In simplistic terms, a ‘jihad’ is a ‘jihad that is a ‘jihad’. What is a ‘jihad’? Who declares it and defines it? Any Imam can call a ‘Jihad’ against ‘any’ action (either perceived or real) that is an affront to Islamic beliefs (which is almost everything that we infidels love and cherish). There are so many freaking ‘jihads’ being declared in this world that the term is beginning to get into advertisements. This term appears to turn Merikans to milk pudding due to their fear and ignorance about our enemy.

Need a NEW strategy and foreign policy...DEFINE..."We will leave WHEN THE JOB IS DONE". What does that mean? World wide terrorism threat is GONE? Less terrorists in the world? Whose counting?

The current course in Iraq is not working. The Generals are even saying this. I think this administration should strategize to flood Iraq with thousands of more troops, surround the borders, of IRAQ, don't let anyone through the borders, and then "choke out" those militant extremists who are masacring the citizens of Iraq.

Well, on this point we are in lock step! The problem is, we do not have enough boots on the ground to be successful to accomplish ‘any’ mission! We need to bring back the draft, but I doubt this will ever fly. We need a new leader that understands the situation we are in and ‘LEAD’ the nation to a resolution. I do not see this leader from any parties. Kerry is committed to being uncommitted. He was for they war until he could use the excuse of a perceived failure to switch sides for ‘HIS’ benefit, not that of the American people. That is why I changed my registration to the independent party. I will add that if Joe Lieberman runs for office, he will have my vote! But never Hillary, Dean, Murtha, Kerry or any of the other of our elected officials that supported the war, but well kinda changed their minds.

Almost half the world population today are Muslins and they are not just living in the middle east...As it stands, the struggle with these muslim extremists and the hate for the west will last for decades and at least another generation. I believe and so do many others, that this profound hate was because of our misdirection in going to Iraq for an invasion instead of hunting down Osama in Afganistan. The war will end when the U.S treasurery is totally bankrupt, and the U.S will have to enlist our elderly population as a last resort.

JMHO, this is an ‘everlasting’ hate that they have for anyone ‘not muslim’. This hate is not secular as they hate everyone with Israel being #1. They hated us before Iraq and they will continue to hate us after Iraq, even if a new government is in control and we leave. I agree that this whole debacle was mishandled/miscalculated/etc.. But here we are today! I do not see ‘any’ coherent strategy on this issue coming from ‘any’ political party having a firm understanding and strategy for a resolution. They are all too afraid to be seen as racist or religious zealots if they would have the tenacity to make a stand and ‘cut the baby’.

Someone has to understand the ‘enemy’!

My hope is to eliminate Bush's conservative support. This is the only way we can redirect our resources to fight a war on terrorism, secure our borders as the first order of business, rather than attempt to over throw governements, ooccupy countries whose system or leadership we don't agree with for the sake of instilling our democracy and our idea of liberty.

That is your choice, but IMHO we might be getting yet another idiot that will make matters worse.

We do not need another 'appeaser', Bush is enough!

I keep hearing how this situation is ‘just like Vietnam’. Yes, there are small similarities regarding combat techniques and relying on the hypothesis that the American people will just give up and leave. But this ‘issue’ is a very old and a recurring problem that cannot be resolved by running away. We should have made a stand in Iran when they kept our people. Our ‘failed’ attempt at a rescue only proved (in their minds) that we are a weak nation. But then, as is now, we cannot change the past but deal with the realities of the current situation.

Our leaders, 'SHOULD HAVE' looked at the history of the Islamic invasion and adjust their decisions based on that.

If you think I am just another nutty alarmist regarding the Islamic attacks, and somehow we can appease them and they will just ‘go away’, then on this point we are diametrically opposed. Their thousand+ year history does not support this, and their recent history only proves it.

Here are a few links that you may want to look at:

Meet and converse with the World:
http://www.topix.net/forum/religion/islam

Watch and learn:
http://memritv.org/Search.asp?ACT=S5&P1=57

Islam and Peace:
http://answering-islam.org.uk/Hoaxes/salamislam.html

a 911 Video:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X3AQ7KogfmE&am

MSA-USC Hadith Database:
http://www.usc.edu/dept/MSA/reference/searchhadith.html

History of the Islamic Jihad
http://www.historyofjihad.org/

I have more, but this might be considered a primer……… 😛

Take Care My Friend,
B) UT
 
Here's what your hero's thought about Saddam prior to him hiding in his hole. It's still Bush's fault though right?

October 9th, 1999 Letter to President Clinton Signed by Senators Levin, Lieberman, Lautenberg, Dodd, Kerrey, Feinstein, Mikulski, Daschle, Breaux, Johnson, Inouye, Landrieu, Ford and Kerry -- all Democrats
"We urge you, after consulting with Congress and consistent with the US Constitution and laws, to take necessary actions, including, if appropriate, air and missile strikes on suspect Iraqi sites to respond effectively to the threat posed by Iraq's refusal to end its weapons of mass destruction programs."

Joe Biden > August 4, 2002
"This is a guy who is an extreme danger to the world, and this is a guy who is in every way possible seeking weapons of mass destruction."

Bill Clinton > February 17, 1998
"If Saddam rejects peace, and we have to use force, our purpose is clear: We want to seriously diminish the threat posed by Iraq's weapons of mass destruction program."

Chuck Schumer > October 10, 2002
"It is Hussein's vigorous pursuit of biological, chemical and nuclear weapons, and his present and future potential support for terrorist acts and organizations that make him a danger to the people of the united states."

John Kerry > January 23, 2003
"Without question we need to disarm Saddam Hussein. He is a brutal, murderous dictator leading an impressive regime. He presents a particularly grievous threat because he is so consistently prone to miscalculation. And now he's miscalculating America's response to his continued deceit and his consistent grasp for weapons of mass destruction. His consistent grasp for weapons of mass destruction."

Sandy Berger > February 18, 1998
"He'll use those weapons of mass destruction again as he has 10 times since 1983."

Senator Carl Levin > September 19, 2002
"We begin with a common belief that Saddam Hussein is a tyrant and a threat to the peace and stability of the region. He has ignored the mandate of the United Nations, is building weapons of mass destruction and the means of delivering them."

Senator Hillary Clinton > October 10, 2002
"In the four years since the inspectors left, intelligence reports show that Saddam Hussein has worked to rebuild his chemical and biological weapons stock. His missile delivery capability, his nuclear program. He has also given aid, comfort, and sanctuary to terrorists including Al-Qaeda members. It is clear, however, that if left unchecked, Saddam Hussein will continue to increase his capacity to wage biological and chemical warfare and will keep trying to develop nuclear weapons."

Madeleine Albright > November 10, 1999
"Hussein has chosen to spend his money on building weapons of mass destruction and palaces for his cronies."

Robert Byrd > October 3, 2002
"The last UN weapons inspectors left Iraq in October of '98. We are confident that Saddam Hussein retains some stockpiles of chemical and biological weapons and that he has since embarked on a crash course to build up his chemical and biological warfare capabilities. Intelligence reports indicate that he is seeking nuclear weapons."

Al Gore > September 23, 2002
"Iraq's search for weapons of mass destruction has proven impossible to deter, and we should assume that it will continue for as long as Saddam is in power."

Joe Biden > August 4, 2002
"I think he has anthrax. I have not seen any evidence that he has smallpox, but you hear them say, Tim (Russert), is the last smallpox outbreak in the world was in Iraq; ergo, he may have a strain."

Bill Clinton > December 17, 1998
"Earlier today, I ordered America's armed forces to strike military and security targets in Iraq.... Their mission is to attack Iraq's nuclear, chemical and biological weapons programs and its military capacity to threaten its neighbors."

Dick Gephardt > September 23, 2002
"(I have seen) a large body of intelligence information over a long time that he is working on and has weapons of mass destruction. Before 1991, he was close to a nuclear device. Now, you'll get a debate about whether it's one year away or five years away."

Russell Feingold > October 9, 2002
"With regard to Iraq, I agree Iraq presents a genuine threat, especially in the form of weapons of mass destruction: chemical, biological and potentially nuclear weapons. I agree that Saddam Hussein is exceptionally dangerous and brutal, if not uniquely so, as the president argues."

John Edwards > January 7, 2003
"Serving on the intelligence committee and seeing day after day, week after week, briefings on Saddam's weapons of mass destruction and his plans on using those weapons, he cannot be allowed to have nuclear weapons. It's just that simple. The whole world changes if Saddam ever has nuclear weapons."

John Kerry > January 31, 2003
"If you don't believe...Saddam Hussein is a threat with nuclear weapons, then you shouldn't vote for me."

Bill Nelson > September 14, 2002
"I believe he has chemical and biological weapons. I think he's trying to develop nuclear weapons, and the fact that he might use those is a considerable threat to us."

Al Gore > September 23, 2002
"We know that he has stored secret supplies of biological and chemical weapons throughout his country."

Tom Daschle > February 11, 1998
"The (Clinton) administration has said, 'Look, we have exhausted virtually our diplomatic effort to get the Iraqis to comply with their own agreements and with international law. Given that, what other option is there but to force them to do so?' That's what they're saying. This is the key question. And the answer is we don't have another option. We have got to force them to comply, and we are doing so militarily."

Bill Richardson > May 29, 1998
"The threat of nuclear proliferation is one of the big challenges that we have now, especially by states that have nuclear weapons, outlaw states like Iraq."

Hillary Clinton > October 10, 2002
"It is clear, however, that if left unchecked Saddam Hussein will continue to increase his capability to wage biological and chemical warfare and will keep trying to develop nuclear weapons."

Al Gore > December 16, 1998
"f you allow someone like Saddam Hussein to get nuclear weapons, ballistic missiles, chemical weapons, biological weapons, how many people is he going to kill with such weapons? He has already demonstrated a willingness to use such weapons..."

Madeleine Albright > February 1, 1998
"We must stop Saddam from ever again jeopardizing the stability and the security of his neighbors with weapons of mass destruction."

Nancy Pelosi > December 16, 1998
"Saddam Hussein has been engaged in the development of weapons of mass destruction technology, which is a threat to countries in the region, and he has made a mockery of the weapons inspection process."

John Kerry > October 9, 2002
"I will be voting to give the president of the US the authority to use force if necessary to disarm Saddam because I believe that a deadly arsenal of weapons of mass destruction in his hands is a real and grave threat to our security."

Ted Kennedy > September 27, 2002
"We have known for many years that Saddam Hussein is seeking and developing weapons of mass destruction."

Jay Rockefeller > October 10, 2002
"There was unmistakable evidence that Saddam Hussein is working aggressively to develop nuclear weapons and will likely have nuclear weapons within the next five years. We also should remember that we have always underestimated the progress Saddam has made in development of weapons of mass destruction."

Joe Biden > August 4, 2002
"[H]e does have the capacity, as all terrorist-related operations do, of smuggling stuff into the United States and doing something terrible. That is true. But there's been no connection, hard connection made yet between he and al-Qaida or his willingness or effort to do that thus far. Doesn't mean he won't. This is a bad guy."

Madeline Albright > February 18, 2002
"Iraq is a long way from (here), but what happens there matters a great deal here, for the risk that the leaders of a rogue state will use nuclear, chemical or biological weapons against us or our allies is the greatest national security threat we face -- and it is a threat against which we must and will stand firm."

Jane Harman > August 27, 2002
"I certainly think (Hussein's) developing nuclear capability which, fortunately, the Israelis set back 20 years ago with their preemptive attack which, in hindsight, looks pretty darn good."

Dick Durbin > September 30, 1999
"One of the most compelling threats we in this country face today is the proliferation of weapons of mass destruction. Threat assessments regularly warn us of the possibility that North Korea, Iran, Iraq, or some other nation may acquire or develop nuclear weapons."

Bill Nelson > August 25, 2002
"[M]y own personal view is, I think Saddam
has chemical and biological weapons,
and I expect that he is trying to develop
a nuclear weapon. So at some point,
we might have to act precipitously."


Nancy Pelosi > October 10, 2002
"Yes, he has chemical weapons. Yes, he has biological weapons. He is trying to get nuclear weapons."

Evan Bayh > August 4, 2002
"I'm inclined to support going in there and dealing with Saddam, but I think that case needs to be made on a separate basis: his possession of biological and chemical weapons, his desire to get nuclear weapons, his proven track record of attacking his neighbors and others."

Bill Clinton > February 17, 1998
"We have to defend our future from these predators of the 21st Century.... They will be all the more lethal if we allow them to build arsenals of nuclear, chemical, and biological weapons and the missiles to deliver them. We simply cannot allow that to happen. There is no more clear example of this threat than Saddam Hussein."

Hillary Clinton > January 22, 2003
"I voted for the Iraqi resolution. I consider the prospect of a nuclear-armed Saddam Hussein who can threaten not only his neighbors but the stability of the region and the world, a very serious threat to the United States."

Joe Biden > August 4, 2002
"We know he continues to attempt to gain access to additional capability, including nuclear capability."

John Edwards > February 6, 2003
"The question is whether we're going to allow this man who's been developing weapons of mass destruction continue to develop weapons of mass destruction, get nuclear capability and get to the place where -- if we're going to stop him if he invades a country around him -- it'll cost millions of lives as opposed to thousands of lives."

Joe Biden > August 4, 2002
"First of all, we don't know exactly what he has. It's been five years since inspectors have been in there, number one. Number two, it is clear that he has residual of chemical weapons and biological weapons, number one."

Senator Bob Graham > December 8, 2002
"We are in possession of what I think to be compelling evidence that Saddam Hussein has and has had for a number of years a developing capacity for the production and storage of weapons of mass destruction."

John Kerry > February 23, 1998
"Saddam Hussein has already used these weapons and has made it clear that he has the intent to continue to try, by virtue of his duplicity and secrecy, to continue to do so. That is a threat to the stability of the Middle East. It is a threat with respect to the potential of terrorist activities on a global basis. It is a threat even to regions near but not exactly in the Middle East."
 
Here's what your hero's thought about Saddam prior to him hiding in his hole. It's still Bush's fault though right?

October 9th, 1999 Letter to President Clinton Signed by Senators Levin, Lieberman, Lautenberg, Dodd, Kerrey, Feinstein, Mikulski, Daschle, Breaux, Johnson, Inouye, Landrieu, Ford and Kerry -- all Democrats
"We urge you, after consulting with Congress and consistent with the US Constitution and laws, to take necessary actions, including, if appropriate, air and missile strikes on suspect Iraqi sites to respond effectively to the threat posed by Iraq's refusal to end its weapons of mass destruction programs."

Joe Biden > August 4, 2002
"This is a guy who is an extreme danger to the world, and this is a guy who is in every way possible seeking weapons of mass destruction."

Bill Clinton > February 17, 1998
"If Saddam rejects peace, and we have to use force, our purpose is clear: We want to seriously diminish the threat posed by Iraq's weapons of mass destruction program."

Chuck Schumer > October 10, 2002
"It is Hussein's vigorous pursuit of biological, chemical and nuclear weapons, and his present and future potential support for terrorist acts and organizations that make him a danger to the people of the united states."

John Kerry > January 23, 2003
"Without question we need to disarm Saddam Hussein. He is a brutal, murderous dictator leading an impressive regime. He presents a particularly grievous threat because he is so consistently prone to miscalculation. And now he's miscalculating America's response to his continued deceit and his consistent grasp for weapons of mass destruction. His consistent grasp for weapons of mass destruction."

Sandy Berger > February 18, 1998
"He'll use those weapons of mass destruction again as he has 10 times since 1983."

Senator Carl Levin > September 19, 2002
"We begin with a common belief that Saddam Hussein is a tyrant and a threat to the peace and stability of the region. He has ignored the mandate of the United Nations, is building weapons of mass destruction and the means of delivering them."

Senator Hillary Clinton > October 10, 2002
"In the four years since the inspectors left, intelligence reports show that Saddam Hussein has worked to rebuild his chemical and biological weapons stock. His missile delivery capability, his nuclear program. He has also given aid, comfort, and sanctuary to terrorists including Al-Qaeda members. It is clear, however, that if left unchecked, Saddam Hussein will continue to increase his capacity to wage biological and chemical warfare and will keep trying to develop nuclear weapons."

Madeleine Albright > November 10, 1999
"Hussein has chosen to spend his money on building weapons of mass destruction and palaces for his cronies."

Robert Byrd > October 3, 2002
"The last UN weapons inspectors left Iraq in October of '98. We are confident that Saddam Hussein retains some stockpiles of chemical and biological weapons and that he has since embarked on a crash course to build up his chemical and biological warfare capabilities. Intelligence reports indicate that he is seeking nuclear weapons."

Al Gore > September 23, 2002
"Iraq's search for weapons of mass destruction has proven impossible to deter, and we should assume that it will continue for as long as Saddam is in power."

Joe Biden > August 4, 2002
"I think he has anthrax. I have not seen any evidence that he has smallpox, but you hear them say, Tim (Russert), is the last smallpox outbreak in the world was in Iraq; ergo, he may have a strain."

Bill Clinton > December 17, 1998
"Earlier today, I ordered America's armed forces to strike military and security targets in Iraq.... Their mission is to attack Iraq's nuclear, chemical and biological weapons programs and its military capacity to threaten its neighbors."

Dick Gephardt > September 23, 2002
"(I have seen) a large body of intelligence information over a long time that he is working on and has weapons of mass destruction. Before 1991, he was close to a nuclear device. Now, you'll get a debate about whether it's one year away or five years away."

Russell Feingold > October 9, 2002
"With regard to Iraq, I agree Iraq presents a genuine threat, especially in the form of weapons of mass destruction: chemical, biological and potentially nuclear weapons. I agree that Saddam Hussein is exceptionally dangerous and brutal, if not uniquely so, as the president argues."

John Edwards > January 7, 2003
"Serving on the intelligence committee and seeing day after day, week after week, briefings on Saddam's weapons of mass destruction and his plans on using those weapons, he cannot be allowed to have nuclear weapons. It's just that simple. The whole world changes if Saddam ever has nuclear weapons."

John Kerry > January 31, 2003
"If you don't believe...Saddam Hussein is a threat with nuclear weapons, then you shouldn't vote for me."

Bill Nelson > September 14, 2002
"I believe he has chemical and biological weapons. I think he's trying to develop nuclear weapons, and the fact that he might use those is a considerable threat to us."

Al Gore > September 23, 2002
"We know that he has stored secret supplies of biological and chemical weapons throughout his country."

Tom Daschle > February 11, 1998
"The (Clinton) administration has said, 'Look, we have exhausted virtually our diplomatic effort to get the Iraqis to comply with their own agreements and with international law. Given that, what other option is there but to force them to do so?' That's what they're saying. This is the key question. And the answer is we don't have another option. We have got to force them to comply, and we are doing so militarily."

Bill Richardson > May 29, 1998
"The threat of nuclear proliferation is one of the big challenges that we have now, especially by states that have nuclear weapons, outlaw states like Iraq."

Hillary Clinton > October 10, 2002
"It is clear, however, that if left unchecked Saddam Hussein will continue to increase his capability to wage biological and chemical warfare and will keep trying to develop nuclear weapons."

Al Gore > December 16, 1998
"f you allow someone like Saddam Hussein to get nuclear weapons, ballistic missiles, chemical weapons, biological weapons, how many people is he going to kill with such weapons? He has already demonstrated a willingness to use such weapons..."

Madeleine Albright > February 1, 1998
"We must stop Saddam from ever again jeopardizing the stability and the security of his neighbors with weapons of mass destruction."

Nancy Pelosi > December 16, 1998
"Saddam Hussein has been engaged in the development of weapons of mass destruction technology, which is a threat to countries in the region, and he has made a mockery of the weapons inspection process."

John Kerry > October 9, 2002
"I will be voting to give the president of the US the authority to use force if necessary to disarm Saddam because I believe that a deadly arsenal of weapons of mass destruction in his hands is a real and grave threat to our security."

Ted Kennedy > September 27, 2002
"We have known for many years that Saddam Hussein is seeking and developing weapons of mass destruction."

Jay Rockefeller > October 10, 2002
"There was unmistakable evidence that Saddam Hussein is working aggressively to develop nuclear weapons and will likely have nuclear weapons within the next five years. We also should remember that we have always underestimated the progress Saddam has made in development of weapons of mass destruction."

Joe Biden > August 4, 2002
"[H]e does have the capacity, as all terrorist-related operations do, of smuggling stuff into the United States and doing something terrible. That is true. But there's been no connection, hard connection made yet between he and al-Qaida or his willingness or effort to do that thus far. Doesn't mean he won't. This is a bad guy."

Madeline Albright > February 18, 2002
"Iraq is a long way from (here), but what happens there matters a great deal here, for the risk that the leaders of a rogue state will use nuclear, chemical or biological weapons against us or our allies is the greatest national security threat we face -- and it is a threat against which we must and will stand firm."

Jane Harman > August 27, 2002
"I certainly think (Hussein's) developing nuclear capability which, fortunately, the Israelis set back 20 years ago with their preemptive attack which, in hindsight, looks pretty darn good."

Dick Durbin > September 30, 1999
"One of the most compelling threats we in this country face today is the proliferation of weapons of mass destruction. Threat assessments regularly warn us of the possibility that North Korea, Iran, Iraq, or some other nation may acquire or develop nuclear weapons."

Bill Nelson > August 25, 2002
"[M]y own personal view is, I think Saddam
has chemical and biological weapons,
and I expect that he is trying to develop
a nuclear weapon. So at some point,
we might have to act precipitously."


Nancy Pelosi > October 10, 2002
"Yes, he has chemical weapons. Yes, he has biological weapons. He is trying to get nuclear weapons."

Evan Bayh > August 4, 2002
"I'm inclined to support going in there and dealing with Saddam, but I think that case needs to be made on a separate basis: his possession of biological and chemical weapons, his desire to get nuclear weapons, his proven track record of attacking his neighbors and others."

Bill Clinton > February 17, 1998
"We have to defend our future from these predators of the 21st Century.... They will be all the more lethal if we allow them to build arsenals of nuclear, chemical, and biological weapons and the missiles to deliver them. We simply cannot allow that to happen. There is no more clear example of this threat than Saddam Hussein."

Hillary Clinton > January 22, 2003
"I voted for the Iraqi resolution. I consider the prospect of a nuclear-armed Saddam Hussein who can threaten not only his neighbors but the stability of the region and the world, a very serious threat to the United States."

Joe Biden > August 4, 2002
"We know he continues to attempt to gain access to additional capability, including nuclear capability."

John Edwards > February 6, 2003
"The question is whether we're going to allow this man who's been developing weapons of mass destruction continue to develop weapons of mass destruction, get nuclear capability and get to the place where -- if we're going to stop him if he invades a country around him -- it'll cost millions of lives as opposed to thousands of lives."

Joe Biden > August 4, 2002
"First of all, we don't know exactly what he has. It's been five years since inspectors have been in there, number one. Number two, it is clear that he has residual of chemical weapons and biological weapons, number one."

Senator Bob Graham > December 8, 2002
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"We are in possession of what I think to be compelling evidence that Saddam Hussein has and has had for a number of years a developing capacity for the production and storage of weapons of mass destruction."

John Kerry > February 23, 1998
"Saddam Hussein has already used these weapons and has made it clear that he has the intent to continue to try, by virtue of his duplicity and secrecy, to continue to do so. That is a threat to the stability of the Middle East. It is a threat with respect to the potential of terrorist activities on a global basis. It is a threat even to regions near but not exactly in the Middle East."



You must be nuttier than I am... :up:
But I don't see any Rebublicans quoted.. 😛

Take Care
B) UT
 
Those quotes are truncated and offered without context thus they misrepresent the speaker’s position on the issues.

Typical right wing trick.

Snopes.com
 
UAL,

You say you would never vote for the likes of Kerry and Murtha, both fought in previous wars and front line battle. But yet, folks would rather follow Bush, Cheney who would occupy any country for U.S interest and oil and never picked up a weapon to stand a post, unless of course, its to shoot a hunting buddy while thinking he's a bird...
 
UAL,

You say you would never vote for the likes of Kerry and Murtha, both fought in previous wars and front line battle. But yet, folks would rather follow Bush, Cheney who would occupy any country for U.S interest and oil and never picked up a weapon to stand a post, unless of course, its to shoot a hunting buddy while thinking he's a bird...
hey Aeroman...nice come back.

funny kerry's own comanders and fellow soldiers said; as I could see,he was a phony.Frontline phony to boot.yet your likes fall tripping over yourselves swooning for him.
hes a king and you're a pauper in his little world...funny last I checked he ties his shoes just like you and me.

Bush served his country pure and simple....cheney didn't.

You're funny in your hatred....

we get hit by your so organized al quaida since 9/11? 😛

well??

Bushie, much to your chagrin must be keeping it down :lol:

talk at you later IKE 😉
 
Those quotes are truncated and offered without context thus they misrepresent the speaker’s position on the issues.

Typical right wing trick.

Snopes.com

Typical Leftist denial of the truth. How does "I believe he has weapons of mass distruction." get out of context? Only in Liberal land. :blink:
Have you guys thought of opening your own theme park? Every day is National Appeasement Day. Americans pay full price while the French and Al-Queda get in free.

By the way...did you even read this on the Snopes site you cite? Did you read the entire context they quote these people that you say are misrepresented? You prove my point. THANKS!! :up: :up: :up: :lol:

You speak too much of the truth Dell....they can't handle the truth! :lol:



Speaking of shooting birds....Does Hillary still have that bird outfit Bill likes her to wear? I bet Dick would love to take her hunting.
 
Those quotes are truncated and offered without context thus they misrepresent the speaker’s position on the issues.

Typical right wing trick.

Snopes.com

Yes, cons just cut n' paste any old thing, hell, they probably didn't even read it, it's just boilerplate ditto-blubber and faux soundbites anyway. But I've got to tell you, they are a brazen lot. Even when exposed posting long-discredited urban legends and internet hoaxes as the "truth", they remain shameless in their bitter partisanship. B)
 

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