BridgeGate

[777 fixer]

The point about Benghazi isn't about who the president is. It's how the situation was allowed to happen in the first place, but more importantly, about the lies which were made to cover up the tracks of what State knew was going to point back to their negligence.

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It's about who the president is.  To believe otherwise is burying ones head in the sand.  The same politicians who are screaming about investigations into Benghazi were either silent or said we need to move on when it came to Iraq.

 

[cltrat]

It's about who the president is.  To believe otherwise is burying ones head in the sand.  The same politicians who are screaming about investigations into Benghazi were either silent or said we need to move on when it came to Iraq.

what's that old saying about two wrongs don't make a right

 

[Ms Tree]

I don't even think it's about two wrongs. I believe it's about it being OK if my guy does it but bad if your guy does the same thing. Lives were sacrificed by both administrations and all the ones that came prior. Politics took precedence over the truth. What else is new.

 

[delldude]

You don't think 'CIA operative Ambassador Stevens' was meeting with Abdelhakim Belhadj to attempt to retrieve some of the high tech manpads the stooge Obama let the Libyans have during our ' help ' do you?
 
No chance that had anything to do with the attack as Belhadj was affiliated with the Islamic Fighting Group....which some of its members reportedly were involved in the attack.
 
Obama even referred to the facility as a 'post' correcting previous reports that it was a consulate.....CIA post BTW.
 
I liked Bill Gates describing his surprise at hearing Obama and Hillary discussing their responses to Benghazi not in the interest of American lives, rather what repercussions this would have on their political careers.
 
Hillary 2016

 

[777 fixer]

what's that old saying about two wrongs don't make a right

 
Never said it was.  However it's rather unseemly to demand investigations and hold up nominations in the case of Benghazi while previously stating we need to move on in the case of Iraq.  Which by the way caused the death of over 4000 Americans, wounding thousands some crippled for life and the death of god knows how many Iraqi's.

 

[cltrat]

Never said it was.  However it's rather unseemly to demand investigations and hold up nominations in the case of Benghazi while previously stating we need to move on in the case of Iraq.  Which by the way caused the death of over 4000 Americans, wounding thousands some crippled for life and the death of god knows how many Iraqi's.

and had the support of both aisles of Congress funny how libs sort of overlook that

 

[777 fixer]

and had the support of both aisles of Congress funny how libs sort of overlook that

 
And it's funny how some "conservatives" overlook the monumental screw ups in Iraq.  The problem is it's not funny, its tragic.

 

[eolesen]

The same politicians who are screaming about investigations into Benghazi were either silent or said we need to move on when it came to Iraq.

And the same media who was screaming about Iraq are being silent or saying we need to move on when it comes to Benghazi, the NSA, IRS, and DOJ.

At the very least, Iraq was a war zone, which is going to have unpredictability.

The rest are "only" examples of abuses of power and malfeasance.

 

[eolesen]

Never said it was.  However it's rather unseemly to demand investigations and hold up nominations in the case of Benghazi while previously stating we need to move on in the case of Iraq.  Which by the way caused the death of over 4000 Americans, wounding thousands some crippled for life and the death of god knows how many Iraqi's.

Maybe the reason that Benghazi, the IRS, DOJ, and NSA get brushed under the rug are because they're "only" examples of abuses of power and/or malfeasance.

Unfortunate as it is, Soldiers die and get injured in times of war. They know that going into the job. So do their families. Their commanding officers live with the responsibility of deaths and injuries under their watch for the rest of their lives. Not sure what else you think needs to take place, but please, do feel free to list out your demands...

 

[777 fixer]

And the same media who was screaming about Iraq are being silent or saying we need to move on when it comes to Benghazi, the NSA, IRS, and DOJ.

At the very least, Iraq was a war zone, which is going to have unpredictability.

The rest are "only" examples of abuses of power and malfeasance.

 
That's funny, seems like Benghazi was in the news for quite awhile.  Heck, Fox News loved to bring it up all the time.
 
Which in book is a bigger story?  An intel/command failure the led to the death of four Americans or an intel/command failure that leed to the death of 4000?  A failure that buy the way is still having repercussions to this day.  Google Iraq and see what you get.  Maybe that's why you get the impression that more attention was focused by the "media" on Iraq.

 

[eolesen]

Was there any one intel/command failure which lead to 4000 deaths?... The insurgency wasn't something that anyone had planned or trained for, but that's been addressed.

Go drive on the I-5 past Camp Pendleton today, and you'll see a half dozen "Terror Town" setups where they train for dealing with insurgents. And those are just the ones you can see by Las Pulgas and San Mateo. I drove thru the center of the base in December, and there are probaby 20-24 of them set up between Mainside and SOI.

As for the news today.... duh.

It didn't take a Harvard Ph.D to figure out that once the US pulled the troops out of Iraq, the bad guys would find their way back.

But hey, at least it's not our guys dying, right?

 

[Ms Tree]

 

And the same media who was screaming about Iraq are being silent or saying we need to move on when it comes to Benghazi, the NSA, IRS, and DOJ.

At the very least, Iraq was a war zone, which is going to have unpredictability.

The rest are "only" examples of abuses of power and malfeasance.

 

Especially when you go in under the delusion that you will be greeted like liberators and think it will be over in 6 months. That kind of thinking definitely leads to unpredictability.

 

[Ms Tree]

 

Was there any one intel/command failure which lead to 4000 deaths?... The insurgency wasn't something that anyone had planned or trained for, but that's been addressed.

Go drive on the I-5 past Camp Pendleton today, and you'll see a half dozen "Terror Town" setups where they train for dealing with insurgents. And those are just the ones you can see by Las Pulgas and San Mateo. I drove thru the center of the base in December, and there are probaby 20-24 of them set up between Mainside and SOI.

As for the news today.... duh.

It didn't take a Harvard Ph.D to figure out that once the US pulled the troops out of Iraq, the bad guys would find their way back.

But hey, at least it's not our guys dying, right?

I'd argue that putting Rumsfeld in charge of the DoD was the biggest mistake. No surge would have been needed had he gone with the recommendation of the military leaders. Guess his Navy service did not teach him much. When you go in with inadequate troop numbers, the delusion that you will be greeted like liberators as Cheney said and no exist plan for a war that was only expected to last 6 months(Are you freaking serious????) what do you expect is going to happen? I guess the answer is over 4,000 dead and thousands more injured.

Nope, no degree needed. Perhaps one was needed to figure out that Sadam was the one keeping Iran at bay and that nation building does not work. They have been fighting over there for centuries. What idiot thinks we can go in and fix that?

 

[southwind]

That's funny, seems like Benghazi was in the news for quite awhile.  Heck, Fox News loved to bring it up all the time.
 
Which in book is a bigger story?  An intel/command failure the led to the death of four Americans or an intel/command failure that leed to the death of 4000?  A failure that buy the way is still having repercussions to this day.  Google Iraq and see what you get.  Maybe that's why you get the impression that more attention was focused by the "media" on Iraq.

Err........what does Christie have to do with Iraq.............WAIT!........I get it, now we will just start associating the 2, EVERY chance we get and WALLA!

***Breaking News*** Christie responsible for 1000's killed in Iraq!

 

[Dog Wonder]

Err..........WAIT!........I get it, WALLA!

Flunked French, English, and History. A triple threat.