Business Class travel between US-UK

[FrugalFlyerv2.0]

Silverjet joined Eos and Maxjet this weekend.

With AA having ~16-20 flights / day to London, will they be picking up some of the former Silverjet clientelle or do others (BA, VS, CO, DL, UA, NW, US) have more to gain?

 

[FA Mikey]

Since they were out of EWR, I think CAL will be the greatest beneficiary.

 

[BigBangTheory]

Silverjet joined Eos and Maxjet this weekend.

With AA having ~16-20 flights / day to London, will they be picking up some of the former Silverjet clientelle or do others (BA, VS, CO, DL, UA, NW, US) have more to gain?

AA does not fly EWR-LHR.

 

[FrugalFlyerv2.0]

AA does not fly EWR-LHR.

So you're saying that nobody would drive to JFK for a New York-London flight?
BTW - AA doesn't fly to Luton either, but I digress.

 

[BigBangTheory]

So you're saying that nobody would drive to JFK for a New York-London flight?

Since CO and BA fly EWR-LHR, why should they?

 

[FA Mikey]

Because AA is their preferred carrier, because they are advantage members. Could be any number of reasons why.

 

[BigBangTheory]

Because AA is their preferred carrier, because they are advantage members. Could be any number of reasons why.

In todays world, that's not a good enough reason to travel over to JFK. With the price of gas and tolls, they will fly CO or BA out of EWR.

 

[FWAAA]

Yields to LHR tanked in the first quarter and Arpey said that trend is expected to continue now that anyone can fly there. I doubt the yield erosion is due to the biz-only carriers and I doubt their failures will help AA or any of the other airlines.

Fortunately, the yields to the rest of Europe were higher in Q1. LHR was the problem.

 

[eolesen]

In todays world, that's not a good enough reason to travel over to JFK. With the price of gas and tolls, they will fly CO or BA out of EWR.

You must not be a business traveler... Gas and tolls are usually expensible to those of us whose employers allow us to fly in business class for transatlantic travel...

So, making the trip over to JFK from North Jersey is a no-brainer if it means triple miles or double EQP's. If AA ever gets to accrue mileage on BA transatlantic, flying out of EWR becomes a possibility, but given the potential for using a EVIP on AA, I'd still choose to head over to Queens.

 

[kirkpatrick]

In todays world, that's not a good enough reason to travel over to JFK. With the price of gas and tolls, they will fly CO or BA out of EWR.

Let's not assume everyone flying between EWR and LON lives in New Jersey. With Manhattan the ultimate destination of much business travel, JFK isn't such a bad alternative.

MK

 

[TechBoy]

You must not be a business traveler... Gas and tolls are usually expensible to those of us whose employers allow us to fly in business class for transatlantic travel...

So, making the trip over to JFK from North Jersey is a no-brainer if it means triple miles or double EQP's. If AA ever gets to accrue mileage on BA transatlantic, flying out of EWR becomes a possibility, but given the potential for using a EVIP on AA, I'd still choose to head over to Queens.

Yes, but if the Silverjet customers really cared about EQPs, they would not have been flying Silverjet. I'm sure that some will switch to AA, but more likely to BA and CO.

 

[Veritas]

Silverjet's average business class fare between New York and London was £600 (~ $1,200). It seems to me as if the majority of their passengers will not buy business class tickets on their new airline of choice.

Besides, Silverjet's load factor at the end of May was 67%. What does that translate to, 70-140 pax a day?

Silverjet represents strike three for all-business-class model

 

[eolesen]

That load factor includes their London-Dubai service (started in November), which arguably may have been carrying more pax than the London-New York service did.