Cabin Jumpseat Safety Policy

[USCREW]

As I mentioned before I'm a 32" waist. On the 737-400 (a few 737-300's) and the 757 the retractable straps are certainly shorter. I can clip the lap strap and have MAYBE two inches left. It's pretty small. All joking aside, if they are going to make this policy they SERIOUSLY need to check the belts. Some are extremely small and others like with the adjustable shoulders you could strap in a piano.

Thank God it's not just me. I asked Hubby yesterday, "So, do I look shorter and wider to you"? He's no dummy..."Uhh, no. Why"?

 

[Twicebaked]

What do you mean by "strapped in the whole time"? Some of those jumpseat mock ups at the CLT training center are so beat up. They better get fixed up to resemble an actual FA jumpseat we have on the A/C, or there are going to be MAJOR problems.

At every exit.

It doesn't matter how beat up the jumpseat is or isn't....... If you don't fit in the harness and belt, you don't fit in the harness or belt.....PERIOD!!!!

 

[Twicebaked]

There are no weight requirements for the job of f/a.

You are correct, BUT.........................

FAA requires you to be in jump seat STRAPPED in during NON safety related duties while on the ground during taxi, take off and landing........ WELL

YOUR "Work and Conduct" rules state:

2-1 12. Violate an FAA RULE which results in your being permanently barred from performing your JOB as a FLIGHT ATTENDANT.

I would say that not being able to fit in a jumpseat stapped in violates an FAA rule.

So, yes, US does not have a weight requirement!!!!!

And before someone says "Well the jumpseats are not big enough"! Well, the FAA doesn't feel that way otherwise they would have made them bigger.

They are the size they are for a reason.

 

[AL-PS-PI-AW]

At every exit.

It doesn't matter how beat up the jumpseat is or isn't....... If you don't fit in the harness and belt, you don't fit in the harness or belt.....PERIOD!!!!

Ok calm down now!

The problem here is that some of the jumpseat mockups in the CLT training center dont resemble the actual A/C jumpseat. People can fit on the a/c jumpseat but not in the mockup. Thats a problem i would think.

 

[4merresrat]

You are correct, BUT.........................
FAA requires you to be in jump seat STRAPPED in during NON safety related duties while on the ground during taxi, take off and landing........ WELL
YOUR "Work and Conduct" rules state:
2-1 12. Violate an FAA RULE which results in your being permanently barred from performing your JOB as a FLIGHT ATTENDANT.

I would say that not being able to fit in a jumpseat stapped in violates an FAA rule.
So, yes, US does not have a weight requirement!!!!!

They are the size they are for a reason.

EXACTLY. Well said. Thank you.

 

[flybynite]

You are correct, BUT.........................

FAA requires you to be in jump seat STRAPPED in during NON safety related duties while on the ground during taxi, take off and landing........ WELL

YOUR "Work and Conduct" rules state:

2-1 12. Violate an FAA RULE which results in your being permanently barred from performing your JOB as a FLIGHT ATTENDANT.

I would say that not being able to fit in a jumpseat stapped in violates an FAA rule.

So, yes, US does not have a weight requirement!!!!!

And before someone says "Well the jumpseats are not big enough"! Well, the FAA doesn't feel that way otherwise they would have made them bigger.

They are the size they are for a reason.

Yes, I am correct. There are no weight requirements.

I apparently wasn't conveying the difference between a weight requirement and a performance requirement properly.

There are those on this board who are on the outside looking in that don't "get" what I mean. They are so out of the loop. They think if you're over weight..you can't perform your safety duties.

Well, that would be like assuming an over weight pilot can't fly an aircraft! 🙄

What I have said is, those that will be impacted by this policy should have a grace period to lose the weight before they get put on unpaid medical leave.

I don't want anyone to lose their house or have to jerk their kids out of collage because of this.

 

[luvn737s]

And before someone says "Well the jumpseats are not big enough"! Well, the FAA doesn't feel that way otherwise they would have made them bigger.

They are the size they are for a reason.

The FAA doesn't design and build the airplane. They can dictate the minimum crashworthiness , but they no more dictate the size of the jumpseat than they do the size of any other seat. The manufacturer builds it and the FAA gives it a Type Certificate.

 

[tahitigirl]

The easiest way to fix this whole thing without lawsuits is to convert all jumpseats to the A330 seats. The extensions are not compatible and there would be no question, either you can close it or you can't.

The you can't alter the jumpseat in any form or fashion has been around for some time, but never enforced. I for one am happy this happening.

 

[Twicebaked]

What I have said is, those that will be impacted by this policy should have a grace period to lose the weight before they get put on unpaid medical leave.

Does an emergency have a grace period? NO!!!!

You have had your whole career to obide by the FAA and company standards. You chose not to abide by them. (Not you of course)

The company wasn't given time to comply with FAA policies. Why should you?

 

[Twicebaked]

The FAA doesn't design and build the airplane. They can dictate the minimum crashworthiness , but they no more dictate the size of the jumpseat than they do the size of any other seat. The manufacturer builds it and the FAA gives it a Type Certificate.

The FAA will allow or NOT allow something on the aircraft.

The FAA has a say in EVERYTHING regarding placement, size, and weight of things on the aircraft... all the way down to where to place a roll of toilet paper.

I worked with the FAA on many projects within the company and this is FACT!!!!

If they don't want it.....it doesn't fly!!!! So, you are only partially correct.

 

[US1YFARE]

It is plane rediculus that people think a morbidly obese flight attendant can carry out their safety duties in the event of an emergency. I could care less if someone is fat. What do the inneroffice memos say on this topic as it relates to safety? My innerself says, if you can't use a regular belt you shouldn't be on the jumpseat.bother way, I think cakki's would have been better as this new uniform shows everything.

 

[N965VJ]

<SNIP> I think cacky's would have been better as this new uniform shows everything.

Fixed that for yinz!

I really should see if I can find the old height/weight requirement matrix in some of my old USAir stuff. I bet I would be on Weight Check if that was still in effect.

 

[luvn737s]

The FAA will allow or NOT allow something on the aircraft.

The FAA has a say in EVERYTHING regarding placement, size, and weight of things on the aircraft... all the way down to where to place a roll of toilet paper.

I worked with the FAA on many projects within the company and this is FACT!!!!

If they don't want it.....it doesn't fly!!!! So, you are only partially correct.

No, actually what you are referring to is the type design of the aircraft. The aircraft must conform to it's type design which specifies, among other things, the placement of items and their weight. When it doesn't conform, the item is placed on MEL which then becomes a short-term supplemental type certificate allowing the airplane to be flown under certain restrictions without conforming to its type design. Now you probably know more than you ever wanted to about type design conformity.

What has been mentioned and bears repeating is that at a bare minimum, the seat belts should be checked to assure that they are the proper model number and length. Belts are often replaced and as such are subject to being improperly installed in the wrong aircraft or position. There was an incident many years ago where a captain was unable to fasten his belt in the cockpit and was removed from the flight, only to find later that the belt was not the proper length. The same thing may be found by checking the JS seat belts as well.

Even if all the seatbelts were double in size, it does not excuse the callous and bigoted way that people here talk about their fellow employees, just because society turns it's head and tacitly approves it.

 

[InternationalShannon]

Fixed that for yinz!

I really should see if I can find the old height/weight requirement matrix in some of my old USAir stuff. I bet I would be on Weight Check if that was still in effect.

Hey , is there any particular reason why this big Weight Watchers thing is on the hub? Coincidence?

 

[N965VJ]

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