CBS to devote entire morining show to hero pilot

[featheroleather]

it was good. the crew calmly described what it was like from the moment they lost thrust in both engines to the impact with the water. The Australian singer even sang a song for the crew and passengers. Later on they received the keys to the City of NY

The 60 minutes piece was excellent.Sully was gracious to include the entire crewand the first responders.One of the FA's was gracious to be a NY'ernow,which loomberg had to cutely invite her to be a taxpayer too,Ha Ha.The FA in the back seems to be the most traumatized and she still hasnt been able to put her uniform back on.She was in the rear by herself and was the one who had to deal with a pax opening the door.She thought she was a goner when the water was rising but in an instant was able to escape.Hopefully she will do what is best for her and her family.The 2 in the front had a totally different experience and seem no worse for the wear.FO Skiles summed it up best at the NY press conference.Im paraphrasing here."We (in the industry)can all walk a little higher now ,this is a feel good story that this country wants and what folks in the real world have been feeling for the past 8 months,people in the airline industry have been feeling for the past 8 years" Kudos for all for not bringing politic into this.Boo for those Monday morning quarterbacking a hero,a term frequently overused.

 

[flygirl74]

On HLN, when Sully accepts the key to the city, I see Mike Flores standing behind him. Anyone know who the pilot behind Mayor Bloomberg is? He is in unifrom, and wearing a hat. I wonder if all the crew flew to NYC or did some opt to drive? I am curious to how I would feel/react after something like this.

 

[cubfan]

Sooooo then in the interest of getting this thread back on track has anyone actually seen the show that could share their opinions and observations.

I was able to watch all the programs. 60 min, cbs, gma. Did some switching back and forth between cbs and gma. I have to admit the entire crew served us all well. I don't think I have seen a more humble, well spoken, professional group in my life. I have to admit when they all met with the passengers, it was quite a moving moment. My wife said she saw me wipe my eye, of course I claimed to have something in it, my story and I'm sticking to it. They truely deserve all the attention, once again, job well done and thank you.

 

[hp_fa]

I saw 60 Minutes and totally understood the varying responses from the entire crew based on who they are, where they were and what they had to contend with. I was unhappy to hear a usually intelligent radio talk show host this morning saying he thought the 3rd FA was sounding like someone getting ready to file a lawsuit. The stupidity of the remark make me mad. She is obviously not ready to go back to work yet and maybe she will decide not to go back to flying. Perhaps the training department might appeal to her, and others who may not want to fly again. There is knowledge that she and the rest of the crew have that can be impressed on others to understand what it is like when things really do go badly.

 

[usabusdriver]

They should all be able to retire at full pay for the rest of there time remaining,
after having a near death experience like that that. Seems like 5000 bucks just isn't enough.

wopr

You know it is sad when we watch the crew getting accolades applauding their performance and professionalism on several television shows and getting a key to the city from the Mayor, and yet we are still waiting to hear about any official recognition for the crew from the puzzle palace brain trust beyond a blurb in “About USâ€￾ on flight 1549.

What employee would expect a dinner or award from their employer recognizing and honoring their performance and professionalism? I mean really.

 

[sharonstoneseat]

Perhaps the training department might appeal to her, and others who may not want to fly again. There is knowledge that she and the rest of the crew have that can be impressed on others to understand what it is like when things really do go badly.

You are right. I think that the training department may be one of the options offered. US Airways has done it in the past.

 

[NoMoreKoolAid]

The crew is doing a wonderful job representing USAirways. Something Phoenix never seemed to grasp fully. That said, a lot will be changed after this accident and FAA-USAPA-AFA will all have recommendations. One example I understand is the Brace Commands. For over a year now we adopted the "BEND OVER HEAD DOWN STAY DOWN" For my 19 plus years at least we have used Brace Brace Heads Down Stay Down or Grab Ankles Heads Down Stay Down depending on planned or unplanned emergency. Phoenix decided they wanted to fix what was not broken and make things more simple. It's much harder to unlearn and relearn things that are this automatic and drilled into our heads. Why did they have to fiddle with it? I have no idea. Well, the crew of 1549 reverted back to the old commands as instinct and most others did the same and were corrected in my last recurrent during simulations. What's interesting is watching human behavior. When you yell BEND OVER HEADS DOWN in an AFT facing jumpseat, the trainers are noticing the flight attendants don't hold their brace position which is the exact opposite of what they are instructing the passengers to do, chin up head crown facing the cockpit.
This new team in In flight systems and training do not understand we have been around a lot longer and while we don't mind learning new and better techniques, you can't just change things just because. It creates confusion but then again these are people that can't put out a manual revision that's spell checked and an announcement book that just rambles on and makes no sense.

 

[FlightChic]

The crew is doing a wonderful job representing USAirways. Something Phoenix never seemed to grasp fully. That said, a lot will be changed after this accident and FAA-USAPA-AFA will all have recommendations. One example I understand is the Brace Commands. For over a year now we adopted the "BEND OVER HEAD DOWN STAY DOWN" For my 19 plus years at least we have used Brace Brace Heads Down Stay Down or Grab Ankles Heads Down Stay Down depending on planned or unplanned emergency. Phoenix decided they wanted to fix what was not broken and make things more simple. It's much harder to unlearn and relearn things that are this automatic and drilled into our heads. Why did they have to fiddle with it? I have no idea. Well, the crew of 1549 reverted back to the old commands as instinct and most others did the same and were corrected in my last recurrent during simulations. What's interesting is watching human behavior. When you yell BEND OVER HEADS DOWN in an AFT facing jumpseat, the trainers are noticing the flight attendants don't hold their brace position which is the exact opposite of what they are instructing the passengers to do, chin up head crown facing the cockpit.
This new team in In flight systems and training do not understand we have been around a lot longer and while we don't mind learning new and better techniques, you can't just change things just because. It creates confusion but then again these are people that can't put out a manual revision that's spell checked and an announcement book that just rambles on and makes no sense.

I remember last year at recurrent they told us they changed the commands. I didn't even know about the change but then I kind of vaguely remember them telling us something about a command change during merger integration training but we never practiced it. It was just an "oh by the way...now let's move on to..." Each time I did the doors, I had to concentrate on saying the Bend Over part so I wouldn't get tripped up and I do remember other people having trouble with it as well. If I had been in an emergency I am sure I would have reverted back to the old commands because that is what is ingrained in my head. Bend over is new and it is not. I have to really think about it. I wondered why they changed it anyway. As for the new announcement booklets, those announcements are rubbish! There was nothing wrong with our old announcements and the new ones sound horrible and are full of typos and grammatical errors. Yuck!

 

[US AIRWAYS FAN]

Is there a link on the web where we can watch this interview?

 

[avion]

America West Airlines pilots have made plenty of Miraculous takeoffs and landings. Prevented serious harm to pax and crew many of times throughout the years!!!! HP was one of the safest Airlines to fly with NO CRASHES ON RECORD!!! I am sorry Piney, I know you are defending your opinion but in no way is this jealousy on luv's part.
No one wishes bad or harm upon any pilot and crew, West or East of this magnitude!!! :down:

yes im sure.. every take off and landing is miraculous.... but when AWA starting losing unaccompanied minors and victims of alzheimers customers because there was no sign off policy in effect and that all made national news like minors walking around terminals with no escorts and the poor guy walking around SFO where AWA folks were responsible for was found thats why today the current new US does not accept connecting UNMR and more attention to customers who need extra care .... like the original US always did.. AWA was losing the umnrs... so much for getting you to point a to b but what happens after that....the original US have 500 years of experience learn from it .............

 

[BoeingBoy]

60 minutes linky

Jim

 

[ClueByFour]

You would think the college fratboy "interns" in the sandbox would get it but they don't. This was a senior crew with lots of experience and used their experience and knowledge to save many, many lives.

Just so we are clear: how many flights have you ditched in the hudson? If your answer is "none," I don't want to fly with you, only with Captain Sullenberger.

See, the problem is that nobody on that flight had done anything like what transpired before. "Experience" or what it added is impossible to quantify (Except maybe for Sully and a sailplane logbook--which is not unique to an "experienced" pilot).

 

[LGA777]

There are several nice news video's from the local NYC news in the below links. I can't begin to describe how HUGE this story is in NYC, I actually want to wear my uniform in public for the first time in a long time. Enjoy the videos.

http://wcbstv.com/video


http://abclocal.go.com/wabc/story?section=...&id=6648185


http://www.ny1.com/content/top_stories/936...?ap=1&Flash


Regards

LGA777

 

[LGA777]

Here are more from the CBS Early Show Monday morning, good stuff !

http://www.cbsnews.com/video/earlyshow/

LGA777

 

[sharonstoneseat]

I remember last year at recurrent they told us they changed the commands. I didn't even know about the change but then I kind of vaguely remember them telling us something about a command change during merger integration training but we never practiced it. It was just an "oh by the way...now let's move on to..." Each time I did the doors, I had to concentrate on saying the Bend Over part so I wouldn't get tripped up and I do remember other people having trouble with it as well. If I had been in an emergency I am sure I would have reverted back to the old commands because that is what is ingrained in my head. Bend over is new and it is not. I have to really think about it. I wondered why they changed it anyway.

My guess, during the whole F/A integration training they were trying to take things from the West and things from the East to keep the more vocal F/As from complaining that they were adopting only one side's way of doing things. It didn't do any good as we will always have employees that don't look at the sensibility of things, they just get upset. As much as I would like to say that I would have the time and the presence of mind in an emergency to say my commands verbatim. Captain says Brace, I will probably reinforce her/his command by saying Brace.

Besides, Bend Over for Impact is just way too SNL. Really