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I don't see anything wrong with sleeping on the clock. As long as the right to do so is in your contract, that is. You know, like it is for the pilots and FAs on long-haul flights where crew rest is mandatory. Pilots and FAs are subject to termination for sleeping during a flight that's too short to include crew rest.

Don't wanna be fired for sleeping on the clock? Get The Worthless Union to include permission to do so in the next contract. Isn't that what collective bargaining is for?
 
It is a pointless arguement

Sleeping on the night shift has and all ways will be done. If the work is finished and there is nothing to do you put your sunglasses on and put a book in your lap.

Those of you who are outraged that this happens have obviously not been on nights for any length of time, especially as an AMT.

When I was in LGA I worked from 22:30 to 07:00 then went to JFK to work a second job. Stayed there till 14:00 By the time you get home shower eat dinner and get up to work again you are lucky to get 6 hours of sleep.

Do that for five years and then tell me you didnt doze off during your lunch break. I feel bad for thye guy who has to drive home falls asleep at the wheel and kills one of yiour kids before he or she gets on the school bus.
But hey at least he didnt sleep on the job

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Do that for five years and then tell me you didnt doze off during your lunch break. I feel bad for thye guy who has to drive home falls asleep at the wheel and kills one of yiour kids before he or she gets on the school bus.
But hey at least he didnt sleep on the job

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You are being goofy. How would the guy know who my kid is?

What is wrong ? Didn't get enough sleep last night?

Allow me to call your supervisor and explain why you need to sleep on the company' dime.

This thread should be locked before someone makes a bigger fool out of themselves.
 
you are lucky to get 6 hours of sleep.

Is that at home or at work!

Do that for five years and then tell me you didnt doze off during your lunch break.

I worked midnights for 15 years and have seen guys get 7 hours of sleep at work. That's quite a nap!

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7 Hours sleep sure helps to make sure they are nice and freshly rested for their day jobs!
 
7 Hours sleep sure helps to make sure they are nice and freshly rested for their day jobs!

So who is producing the aircraft?

Are you suggesting that the work is being pencil whipped?

WDYSTFU...cause you obviously don't have a clue!!!!! :blink:
 
You are being goofy. How would the guy know who my kid is?

What is wrong ? Didn't get enough sleep last night?

Allow me to call your supervisor and explain why you need to sleep on the company' dime.

This thread should be locked before someone makes a bigger fool out of themselves.

Actually I am lucky enough not to work nights anymore. Nine years was enough for me.

Call my Sup he will laugh his arse off. I told you it is condoned by managementt you just refuse to believe it.

Your kid has nothing to do with it. It is the guy that falls asleep at the wheel from working nights. He is on his way home at around 7 Am and falls asleep. Car veers off the road killing someone. It has all ready happened to someone here in MIA. A construction worker was killed. That construction worker could have been anyone even your kid. My neighbor is a BSO cop. A nurse slammed into him after working the night shift. She fell asleep at the wheel and hit him doing 60 MPh. the guy nearly died.

http://sheriff.org/news_from_bso/display.cfm?pk=28

Is sleeping justified no but it does occur especially when your work is done.

You sound like the fool to me.
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Funny reading this thread. It seems those that are the most outraged by sleeping on the job have never been Line AMT's and have no clue how it works. Even when a good explanation is given they still say unacceptable.

Personally if I was a manager I would be happy to see my crew sacked out in a break room on most nights at 4am. Why? it means my planes are DONE. If I look around and I don't see anybody It means I've got guys working. That means I'm not going to give the airline the planes in demands for the morning flights. In a well run station there is downtime early in the morning.

I rarely sleep at work during this time. I just can't sleep in a chair. We work from 10pm-8am. Most of us get finished around 4 or 5 am. At that point we become Firemen. We sit around until it is time to go home and hope nobody calls about a fire. Our fires are line call outs from the morning crews. Some sleep, others play cards, surf internet, read, watch tv. I really don't see much difference between the guy sleeping in a chair and the next guy reading. Both have done the work that was asked of them durning the shift and both are there if they are needed for a line call out.

I do have a problem with a mechnic that slinks off before all the work is done and can't be found when his assigned plane has a call out. Those tend to be the guys that never show up at your plane asking if you need help. The justice is served on a night they get buried. Anyone that doesn't get any of this needs to spend some time in our shoes.
 
I do have a problem with a mechnic that slinks off before all the work is done and can't be found when his assigned plane has a call out. Those tend to be the guys that never show up at your plane asking if you need help. The justice is served on a night they get buried. Anyone that doesn't get any of this needs to spend some time in our shoes.

There lies the problem.
 
Management leads by example. Not by slogan, not by regs.

Since the CR Smith days, I have observed management dozing between midnight and sunup. And I have seen other members of management wake them up. Yes, it is documented. And, I'm not just talking about dozing off at the desk. EG: Sleeping in a company truck on another airline's property.
 
If you are caught sleeping on the job, you should be fired on the spot and not even be granted a hearing. You hired on for 8 hours of pay for 8 hours of work.
 
At US if you get caught sleeping ( making a bed) you get 5 days off, get caught a second time it is termination.

And speaking as a person who worked third for a long time, you cant help but fall asleep while sitting in a normal position.

But alas, most of you who are raising a ruckus are people who never worked third in their life.

Do you know people who work third get sick more and die younger?

Complications

Many factors such as age, sleep disorder, psychiatric disorder, and family demands make shift work difficult. The ability to stay active during different times of the day varies among people, as does their preference for wake and sleep time. People who wake up early in the morning and are most active early in the day have a more difficult time adjusting to shift work than people who prefer to stay up late at night. Predisposition to sleep pattern may figure largely into the lives of shift workers.

Aging, however, has a significant detrimental effect on a person’s ability to cope with shift work. It is common for a person who has been working shifts for years to start having difficulty as they grow older. Many sleep disorders, like sleep apnea, surface later in life. Sleep disorders, such as sleep apnea or narcolepsy, usually compound the effects of SWC.

Generally, mood cycles and physiological processes, like the fluctuation of hormone levels, play significant roles in sleep routine. These factors are, in turn, altered by frequently changing sleep habits. So there may be complications for a shift worker who suffers from, say, seasonal affective disorder or depression. Spending nights awake and days asleep may intensify the effects on a person with a psychiatric disorder.

Coping with the Socioeconomic Consequences of Shift Work Change
Shift work places demands on family, infrastructure, and the management of employee resources. Often, the time spent off work is as frustrating to the employee as late-night work. In approximately 30% of nonfarm families in the United States, one spouse works shifts. Industries are currently making efforts to reform and regulate the quality of shift work for their employees.

In addition to the breakdown of circadian rhythm, other factors keep employees from sleeping during the day. For example, their sleep is often interrupted by daytime phone calls from telemarketers. Shift workers may have family obligations that shorten their sleep time, such as caring for young children or an elderly family member. Consequently, shift workers tend to sleep poorly.

Many studies show that workers who frequently change shifts are generally more stressed than conventional day workers and that shift workers get less sleep overall. Studies have shown that, on average, shift workers sleep for 1.5 hours less a day than permanent day workers. In fact, clinical studies have documented the lack of sleep in employees who claim to experience stress, and have differentiated these employees from others on the same schedule who do not claim to suffer stress. It seems as though certain people are better suited for shift work than others. And, yet the reality is that many industrial shift-working employees have severely limited options for occupation
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Working the night shift could increase your risk of cancer. A report from the World Health Organization\'s (WHO) cancer arm, published in the British journal The Lancet Oncology, finds a correlation between working at night with higher cancer rates. Researchers say lower levels of the hormone melatonin, normally produced at night, or sleep deprivation may be the culprit in the increased cancer risk. However, it\'s not yet clear whether the late shift itself or another unknown factor is behind the increased risk. Nevertheless, the WHO\'s International Agency for Research on Cancer, plans to classify shift work as a \"probable\" carcinogen. The American Cancer Society will consider adding shift work to its list of \"known and probable carcinogens,\" The Associated Press reports. The AP quotes experts who say that people who can\'t avoid shift work might be able to protect themselves from some of its health effects by sleeping in a very dark room, to be sure they get the balance between light and dark that is important for the body\'s processes.

NOT CLEAR!!!!!!!!!!!! This crap is what gives safety and health a bad rep. The third shift is not the issue. Address the melatonin issue instead! WE will bet that the sleep deprivation lessens the immune system. These geniuses should focus on that issue. WE know companies who use rotating shifts screw up the body clocks of their employees. WE see the effect of accidents increasing when employees work 16 hour days. WE know people get seasonal affective disorder.
The American Cancer Society better wake up or be the laughing stock among the working public.

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