Dal Concessions

[eolesen]

This is the second round of paycuts at Delta. Last November, pilots took 32.5% cuts, and there were across the board cuts for all other employees in January 2005.

Delta AMT pay cut-7%

TWU AMT pay cut-17.5%

Wrong. Delta AMT pay cut 17% during 2005, assuming the AMT's were still employed. Job losses for AMT's is in the thousands, between eliminating overhaul and closing down the line check hangar at DFW.

 

[Bob Owens]

This is the second round of paycuts at Delta.  Last November, pilots took 32.5% cuts, and there were across the board cuts for all other employees in January 2005.

Delta AMT pay cut-7%

TWU AMT pay cut-17.5%

Wrong. Delta AMT pay cut 17% during 2005, assuming the AMT's were still employed. Job losses for AMT's is in the thousands, between eliminating overhaul and closing down the line check hangar at DFW.

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Are you claiming that thousands of mechanics jobs have not been eliminated at AA through layoffs, attrition, SIS, death, terminations etc?

According to the list we are down to 10,500 in title I. I believe that at one point we had around 16,000. So despite industry leading concessions we lost nearly a third of our mechanic workforce.

 

[AMFAMAN]

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According to the list we are down to 10,500 in title I. I believe that at one point we had around 16,000.

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Over 18,000 title 1 using the company's number from a year ago.

 

[Hopeful]

Keep in mind that the loss of mechanic jobs started in 1983 thanks to the TWU and AA.

--------------Mechanics then first loss the pushbacks! No problem, fellow TWU members got that work and union dues were perserved.

--------------Mechanics lost de-icing. No problem, fellow TWU members got that work and union dues were perserved.

--------------Mechanics lost thousands of overhaul/shop related jobs in TUL and AFW and the SRP was created. The SRP became OSM. No problem, fellow TWU members got those jobs and as well as new hires who the TWU would represent. And union dues were perserved.


So AA/TWU can brag all they want that that together they do more overhaul work in house than any other carrier, but the reduction in the mechanics ranks began at AA.
Even though we see NWA, UAL and DAL recently outsourcing most work, AA did it along side the TWU without bankruptcy!

 

[Bob Owens]

Keep in mind that the loss of mechanic jobs started in 1983 thanks to the TWU and AA.

--------------Mechanics then first loss the pushbacks! No problem, fellow TWU members got that work and union dues were perserved.

--------------Mechanics lost de-icing. No problem, fellow TWU members got that work and union dues were perserved.

--------------Mechanics lost thousands of overhaul/shop related jobs in TUL and AFW and the SRP was created. The SRP became OSM. No problem, fellow TWU members got those jobs and as well as new hires who the TWU would represent. And union dues were perserved.
So AA/TWU can brag all they want that that together they do more overhaul work in house than any other carrier, but the reduction in the mechanics ranks began at AA.
Even though we see NWA, UAL and DAL recently outsourcing most work, AA did it along side the TWU without bankruptcy!

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You left out the fact that with the loss of pushbacks aircraft mechanics were eliminated at most of the smaller stations.

At one time pretty much wherever they had service they had mechanics,and they had them working daylight hours. Many years ago I went on a field trip to Buffalo and I was suprised when I got up there that there was a hangar with the AA logo on it. One of the GSE mechanics there told me he used to be an aircraft mechanic for AA there but when they lost the pushbacks the company pulled all their mechanics out of the smaller stations. So it was either move or transfer to GSE, so thats what he did. He did say he missed working on planes though.

So what we see NWA and other airlines doing now, eliminating or contracting out maintenance in the smaller stations, AA and the TWU did over 20 years ago.

Starting in the 90s AA started replacing A&Ps in OH with SRPS, later changed to OSMs, either way it was a loss as far as A&P mechanics go. But the TWU did not care because they only care about dues.

So the fact of the matter is that as far as A&P mechanics are concerned the other unions at other airlines kept those A&P jobs up to twenty years longer than the TWU.

The TWU is the worst thing to ever happen to the A&P mechanic.

 

[TIME FOR CHANGE]

The TWU is the worst thing to ever happen to the A&P mechanic

GOD DAM right :angry: