Glenn Quagmire
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I agree Tree. I was simply pointing out the hypocrisy from our resident fair weather Libertarian.
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I understood that. My comment was directed at those on here who cant stand the idea of taxes at all.
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He has no more understanding of capitalism v socialism than he does of a parliamentary form of government. The concept of research eludes him
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He does his research on commieblaster.com.
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Not my Gold standard. I happen to know someone from Denmark. I'm well aware they have a different approach. My only point was that the country along with most of Europe have more than 2 highly active and elected political parties.
Secondly not ALL of the major parties in Denmark are owned by the Banksters, which makes a giant difference.
Thirdly most of Europe is debt ridden far worse then we are and their day of reckoning will soon be upon them.
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Forthly Denmark doesn't believe in life sentances for mass murderers.
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What is the price of tea in Denmark?
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Wonder if their "Day of Reckoning" will be upon them because of issue's Tree commented on..........." I have no issue with a 50% tax rate or even higher if I get my moneys worth in things like retirement, education, health care, infrastructure and the like.
Would like to add, "Spoken like a true Socialist, Tree !"
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Ahh, beloved comrade...we can get things done in this country with your help.
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Southwind,
Whether you favor Keynesian or Austrian school Economics, are Liberal, Conservative or Libertarian there are certain things that are as close to absolute as possible when it comes to money, taxes & debt.
Economists typically have stated that the "tipping" point for an economy is a ration of 80% debt to GDP. We are at 101% now and as someone pointed out Denmark is around 141% Debt to GDP. Neither is a good number to have.With the US being as huge a it is economically it papers over a great many of the challenges we face. Demographically, Socially and oherwise the US is no longer a 100% safe harbor of the past for the world economically as a result of the staggering debt.
Additionally, one of the primary reasons for the success of the US over time has been its economic engine which is now being overly burdened by political concerns such as Environmental regulations and over regulation is general.
The recent trend towards government controlled Healthcare and Energy have only made matters worse. Risk aversion (regulation) leads to reward denial.
The rise in the role of government causes what is know as a "Dead Salary" meaing that no goods or services were created or sold. Dead Salaries are paid for by you and I. It's really the same problem as Social Security faces. To many collecting and not enouh producing for the system to remain solvent.
Tax rates over 50% stifle growth. Even the nanny state of Sweden figured this out and has been lowering its tax burden from the highest in the orld to just under 50%. The result is that Sweden has a pretty robust economy despite global recession.
Socialism is great!! Right up untl you run out of other peoples money to spend. Which is pretty much where we are now. It's why Sweden jumped aheadof the curve and reduced tax burdens and kept the economy growing. It should also e noted that they are not on Europes version of the Fed. They still have their own currency, which in my pinion is what keeps them strong. To bad it looks like Saab is dead, but you canthank GM & Obama for that.
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I completely understand what you are saying, it's people like Tree you need to convince that more government is bad for everyone !
I read somewhere that you could tax the "Evil" 1 percenters at 100% and it would be just enough to keep government in business for approx. 6 months !
The problem is government spending and regulations, that prohibit growth in the private industry !
Why would I want to start a business in a country with one of the highest tax rates in the world ?
And when a Libratarian, is capable of getting enough votes to win the post of POTUS, he will have my vote.........until then, it's the lesser of 2 evils and which one of those 2 will do the least amount of damage to my country!
I read somewhere that you could tax the "Evil" 1 percenters at 100% and it would be just enough to keep government in business for approx. 6 months !
The problem is government spending and regulations, that prohibit growth in the private industry !
Why would I want to start a business in a country with one of the highest tax rates in the world ?
And when a Libratarian, is capable of getting enough votes to win the post of POTUS, he will have my vote.........until then, it's the lesser of 2 evils and which one of those 2 will do the least amount of damage to my country!
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Your Libratarian horoscope for today.
"You are trapped in a loop -- but you can bust out of it if you want! You just need to let go of some past slight or mistake that is holding you back. Now is the time for you to move on!"
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