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Democrats Send Bush a BIG Message

Hey Lily of the fields...

I think you need to review events that occured earlier this week, BOTH THE HOUSE AND THE SENATE HAVE A MAJORITY THAT ARE DEMS.

Pitbull,

I understand that. The recent developments, however, do not change the procedure for overriding a presidential veto.

Whether it is 2 weeks ago or 2 weeks from now, a presidential veto still requires 2/3 votes from BOTH houses, not just the Senate as you misstated earlier.

Sure, the House may have an easier time overriding any presidential vetos; but it will still be a bit difficult to obtain the 2/3 votes in the Senate, as the Dems are only a slim majority.

Furthermore, historically speaking, only about 7% of regular vetos (not pocket-veto) are actually overridden by Congress.
 
Pitbull,

I understand that. The recent developments, however, do not change the procedure for overriding a presidential veto.

Whether it is 2 weeks ago or 2 weeks from now, a presidential veto still requires 2/3 votes from BOTH houses, not just the Senate as you misstated earlier.

Sure, the House may have an easier time overriding any presidential vetos; but it will still be a bit difficult to obtain the 2/3 votes in the Senate, as the Dems are only a slim majority.

Furthermore, historically speaking, only about 7% of regular vetos (not pocket-veto) are actually overridden by Congress.

Please reread my previous post....regarding the incumbant republicans who are looking to maintain their seats in 2008...that should make things more clear on what happens in the Senate on any future vetos from this president!
 
Please reread my previous post....regarding the incumbant republicans who are looking to maintain their seats in 2008...that should make things more clear on what happens in the Senate on any future vetos from this president!


Sorry Pitbull, your previous posts do not explain your asinine comments.
 
Sorry Pitbull, your previous posts do not explain your asinine comments.

No need for apologies, its understandable... I guess it wouldn't be viewed as very clear with folks who are narrow-minded thick headed, and refuse to veiw the realities. :lol:
 
Sorry Pitbull, your previous posts do not explain your asinine comments.
Lilly Pad…if you understood where the lost are you would understand how they see this world, you say you are saved, so what’s the problem? Half saved doesn’t exist and in fact being lukewarm is worse then being totally lost because you are not held as accountable.

Trying to reason with lost and hopeless souls is like fishing in the desert hoping to catch the big one.

All you can do is pray for these people and our country that is now in deep trouble with the lost in total control, total control as far as God will allow because even God gets fed up and makes changes the elitist thought could never happen, especially to them. Where the Pubs who lost control, really saved?

I have been hard on you in a few post, consider it tough love because you my dear are lukewarm, a dangerous place to be. I don’t have God’s grace within me and thank him daily that he does for people like me.



Antinomianism


Antinomianism, from the Greek words anti, meaning "against," and nomos, meaning "law," is a short-sighted ancient doctrine that states that Christians are, because of God's grace, somehow free from obeying God's Law. While it is entirely correct to say that salvation is a gift from God that cannot be earned (e.g. Ephesians 2:8-9), it is also vital to understand that the gift of salvation will only be given to those who obey God's Law (e.g.
James 2:24). Gifts aren't earned, but gifts are given for a reason.


Saved By Grace


Christians can only be saved by the grace of God, through the blood sacrifice of Jesus Christ. There is nothing that we can ever possibly do to save ourselves. We don't have the power to do it, and no amount of "law keeping," or "righteous acts," or "Levitical rituals," or "works" can possibly make God owe it to us. We can't earn salvation.
But, does that mean that God's Commandments were "nailed to the cross," and that we are now somehow lawless? Are we free to worship false gods, or bow down to idols, or blaspheme God's name, or ignore His Sabbath Day, or abuse our parents, or commit murder, or run wild in adultery, stealing, lies and coveting? Of course not.

Grace To The Obedient

Our salvation is made possible by grace, but whether or not we will be saved depends upon our repentance and obedience to God. God isn't going to grant His gift of eternal life to those who do not obey Him. The unrepentant lawless are going to find themselves in the lake of fire with the wicked and lawless Satan.
Are God's Ten Commandments now abolished? What does the New Testament have to say about it? What does The Savior Himself have to say about it?

In The Savior's Own Words


"Think not that I have come to abolish the law and the prophets; I have come not to abolish them but to fulfil them. For truly, I say to you, till heaven and earth pass away, not an iota, not a dot, will pass from the law until all is accomplished. Whoever then relaxes one of the least of these Commandments and teaches men so, shall be called least in the kingdom of heaven; but he who does them and teaches them shall be called great in the kingdom of heaven." (Matthew 5:17-19 RSV)

"And behold, one came up to Him, saying, "Teacher, what good deed must I do, to have eternal life?" And He said to him, "Why do you ask Me about what is good? One there is who is good. If you would enter life, keep the Commandments." He said to Him, "Which?" And Jesus said, "You shall not kill, You shall not commit adultery, You shall not steal, You shall not bear false witness, Honor your father and mother, and, You shall love your neighbor as yourself." (Matthew 19:16-19 RSV)

Plain Language From Your Holy Bible


"My little children, I am writing this to you so that you may not sin; but if any one does sin, we have an advocate with the Father, Jesus Christ the righteous; and He is the expiation for our sins, and not for ours only but also for the sins of the whole world. And by this we may be sure that we know Him, if we keep His Commandments. He who says "I know Him" but disobeys His Commandments is a liar, and the truth is not in him; but whoever keeps His word, in him truly love for God is perfected. By this we may be sure that we are in Him: he who says he abides in Him ought to walk in the same way in which He walked." (1 John 2:1-6 RSV)

"Every one who believes that Jesus is the Christ is a child of God, and every one who loves the parent loves the child. By this we know that we love the children of God, when we love God and obey His Commandments. For this is the love of God, that we keep His Commandments. And His Commandments are not burdensome. For whatever is born of God overcomes the world; and this is the victory that overcomes the world, our faith. Who is it that overcomes the world but he who believes that Jesus is the Son of God? This is He who came by water and blood, Jesus Christ, not with the water only but with the water and the blood." (1 John 5:1-6 RSV)

Satan Does Not Want You To Obey God


"Then the dragon was angry with the woman, and went off to make war on the rest of her offspring, on those who keep the Commandments of God and bear testimony to Jesus." (Revelation 12:17 RSV)

"And another angel, a third, followed them, saying with a loud voice, "If any one worships the beast and its image, and receives a mark on his forehead or on his hand, he also shall drink the wine of God's wrath, poured unmixed into the cup of his anger, and he shall be tormented with fire and sulphur in the presence of the holy angels and in the presence of the Lamb. And the smoke of their torment goes up for ever and ever; and they have no rest, day or night, these worshipers of the beast and its image, and whoever receives the mark of its name." Here is a call for the endurance of the saints, those who keep the Commandments of God and the faith of Jesus. And I heard a voice from heaven saying, "Write this: Blessed are the dead who die in the Lord henceforth." "Blessed indeed," says the Spirit, "that they may rest from their labors, for their deeds follow them!" (Revelation 14:9-13 RSV)

The Reward Of The Obedient


"Behold, I am coming soon, bringing my recompense, to repay every one for what he has done. I am the Alpha and the Omega, the first and the last, the beginning and the end." Blessed are those who wash their robes, that they may have the right to the tree of life and that they may enter the city by the gates. Outside are the dogs and sorcerers and fornicators and murderers and idolaters, and every one who loves and practices falsehood." (Revelation 22:12-15 RSV)
 
Mr. Insecurity cuts and pastes Bible verses again. I truly hope you begin to feel more comfortable in your destiny at some point, 700, b/c it doesn't seem like you're convincing yourself. Maybe you fear that fact that you tend to pre-judge everybody, hate everybody, and don't seem to subscribe to true Christian values. I've searched the Bible for verses that say "He who doth cutteth and pasteth shall be the only person in Heaven" but I haven't found it yet. Maybe you're taking the wrong path?
 
No wonder this thread ended up in the wastebasket; all the trash ended up here!!
 
Meaning everything you freaks post is soul food.

The greatest nation on Earth is somewhat missing in Biblical reference of the end days.....it is common knowledge in Christian circles that US will serve a rather large diminished role in world affairs as the return of Christ becomes imminent.So large as it may not matter anymore...Look to the rise of the Euro's and their attempts at global influence....So now as of a weak[ no pun intended] ago,the stage has been augmented by the Dem takeover of both houses......already terrorists abroad in Iran and Iraq have hailed the new changes and look favorably upon the liberal dems as a sign of US weakness...already there are talks of Bush impeachment hearings,McGovern pullouts from Iraq....CUT and RUN.
The dems are going to lead us back into CHAOS over the next up and coming years...take it to the bank.

Young Lions of Tarshish
 
Meaning everything you freaks post is soul food.
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already there are talks of Bush impeachment hearings

My immediate reaction was to think that no one would be able to pin Bush with "Treason, Bribery, or other high Crimes and Misdemeanors," the necessary elements to be impeached and convicted.

I still do not advocate impeachment; but if the House is able to determine that Bush intentionally manipulated national security intelligence, then they may have a shot. The House would need to qualify this type of act as a high crime. Then, in order to be successful, I believe the House (and Senate during the proceedings) would need to show that the war would not have been politically desired had Bush not manipulated the intelligence in the first place.

I don't think it will come to impeachment though. There is hardly enough time before the next elections and do we really want #2 to fill Bush's shoes?
 
While that is quite true, my biggest concern was the stacking of the courts with right wing activist judges. At least now any nominations will have to be more centrist to even get out of committee for the next two years.

Stacking of the courts?? You must be talking about judges that will actually decide cases based on precedent and not relying on foreign courts decisions.
 
Stacking of the courts?? You must be talking about judges that will actually decide cases based on precedent and not relying on foreign courts decisions.


Do you have a citation of any federal cases where judges relied on foreign court's decisions?

And when you say foreign, do you mean a foreign country or another jurisdiction in which the deciding court is not sitting (i.e. Northern District of Illinois using a case from the District of Delaware)?
 

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