They need all the money to make ridiculous security rules and to pay people to follow out the ridiculous procedures. Procedures which change daily too. They can stick it, I say. :angry:
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They need all the money to make ridiculous security rules and to pay people to follow out the ridiculous procedures. Procedures which change daily too. They can stick it, I say. :angry:
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Actually, as I understand it, the entire tax increase is going to fund environmental and social projects, since airlines have such a negative impact on the environment... or at least that's how politician in the EU see it.
France and the UK are just the start. As soon as the politicians in Germany, the Netherlands, and Spain figure out that this will raise on the order of $2B per year just in the UK, they'll be rolling out their own sin taxes lest.
France and the UK are just the start. As soon as the politicians in Germany, the Netherlands, and Spain figure out that this will raise on the order of $2B per year just in the UK, they'll be rolling out their own sin taxes lest.
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Actually, I read that Gordon Brown, the Chancellor of the Exchequer admitted that this 'departure' tax was for the general fund/social projects in the UK. It is in France that Chiroc is proposing a EU tax on air travel for environmental impact.
Right on! I am used to paying a "departure tax" in third world countries. But if the UK gets away with this exorbitant graduated tax (based on the cabin/fare class in which the exit flight is flown), you can damn well bet it will spread to the other countries and airports of Europe.
Fees, are all needed subsidies for Bush-Blair anti-terrorism.
Please fly more often, so we can win the war.
Just for the record, passengers are complaining over on flyertalk.com. The British gov't raised these taxes in late December and made them effective 2/1/07 (including all passengers who had already purchased tickets). The airlines are raising a stink here too. Usually, the government imposes taxes on whoever PURCHASES a ticket after a certain date (not TRAVELING after a certain date). I believe that AA is requiring passengers who didn't pay the taxes when they ticketed to pay at the airport.
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Why did he make that incorrect assumption? My guess would be emotions, pure and simple. You see if he had been thinking things through clearly this thread would never have been started.
All TFC had to do as I already pointed out is go to the Travel section of Jetnet. There he would have seen the announcement dated 1/16/2007 regarding this subject. Did he do that, no he did not.
Slightly off topic but I can't help but notice that the european govenrments have not levied an "enviornmental" tax on the A380. Afterall, the thing is going to be burning a lot of fuel. Nor did they seem to have any problem with wetlands in Hamburg being plowed under to make room for the A380 facility there.
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Along with checking the Travel section of Jetnet you could have done a google search.
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<_< ----- So why go to Europe? There's still a lot to see, and do, right here in your own back yard!!
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That is what we are doing. We like to travel to europe but thei tax BS was the last straw for us. I have no interest in giving the UE any more of my money.
I think we will be doing a road trip to the grand Canyon, Yellow Stone or Yosemity. Not sure which. Neither of us have been to any of them so we might just toss a coin. Like you said, lots to see here, DC came up as a possible as well.
I think we will be doing a road trip to the grand Canyon, Yellow Stone or Yosemity. Not sure which. Neither of us have been to any of them so we might just toss a coin. Like you said, lots to see here, DC came up as a possible as well.
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<_< ---- Been to all three! Any of the above chooses will be good! 🙂
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We quit flying D2 about four years before I quit, and started doing road trips. Next thing I knew, we had an RV, and it's the best thing we ever did as a family, next to me quitting and having time to actually spend with my kids during their waking hours...
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We still fly, but the RV thing is really neat, huh?
I would give up flying before giving up the RV. It allowed us to do so much together as a family. After my divorce, the RV really helped me do so many things with my kids. I was not a Disneyland Dad.
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Yep. More time with the kids, and it can double as a place to stay if my wife finally kicks me out.
The way I figured it out, the cost of reasonably priced hotels, rental cars, and fast food meals for two trips over the course of a year came out to more than what we would spend on the RV over the course of a year.
Plus, it's a sunk cost, so it doesn't cost us any more or less whether we use it once a month or twice a year, so we're more inclined to take spur of the moment trips.
Case and point... the kids are out of school next Thu/Fri, so we're off to Kalifornia for a couple hundred in gas and grocieries. Plus, our teenager gets to bring a friend along. The cost of a D3 alone will be more than our grocery bill for the trip.
As an aside, if you're interested in RV'ing, check out the Open Road Forums for more information on just about anything from how to pick an RV to what's the cleanest/safest rest area to park overnight on I-10 in Alabama....
The way I figured it out, the cost of reasonably priced hotels, rental cars, and fast food meals for two trips over the course of a year came out to more than what we would spend on the RV over the course of a year.
Plus, it's a sunk cost, so it doesn't cost us any more or less whether we use it once a month or twice a year, so we're more inclined to take spur of the moment trips.
Case and point... the kids are out of school next Thu/Fri, so we're off to Kalifornia for a couple hundred in gas and grocieries. Plus, our teenager gets to bring a friend along. The cost of a D3 alone will be more than our grocery bill for the trip.
As an aside, if you're interested in RV'ing, check out the Open Road Forums for more information on just about anything from how to pick an RV to what's the cleanest/safest rest area to park overnight on I-10 in Alabama....
