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Stratocruiser said:
What I do for a living is none of your business.

Since it is none of our business what you do for a living, take your business and got to hell.
I have worked for NW for 35+ years. My wife is a F/A for NW with over 30 years experience.
It is all to obvious, that you, with all your ignorance, stupidity and unqualified knowledge of the aviation industry, has stumbled into a forum that exceeds your mental capacity.
In order to discuss the important issues NW employees are facing, you must have a spine and the fortitude to endure our dilemna (you are severely lacking in both categories).
Go stick your big probosis (that is your nose, ####) into a forum that gives a damn about you and your chemically induced ramblings.
 
There is alot of hostility here. No doubt that NW management has indeed screwed a lot of stuff up. I'm not so sure about them not buying futures in oil though that would be an extremly foolish thing not to do in any market. I'm not so sure that NW has a problem with its employees as much as it does with the unions. For example: Having to go ask another union if they can use their own employees to cover work for striking workers. That is insane you cannot operate a company like that and expect to remain competitve. You better be careful people I think as a whole the aviation industry isn't very far from declaring war on the unions. If I'm mistaken please correct me but isn't Northwest, Delta and KLM in bed together? Isn't Champion already coming to Northwest's aid? These companies alone arn't a big threat to the unions except for AMFA and thats a whole other story. If you put these companies together though then the unions are up against a very formidable force. Plus if you try to shut down 4,5 or 6 airlines then Uncle Sam's going to get into the picture. These companies might not be here in the future but somebody will be, these planes aren't going anywhere but the current workforce and the unions will be history.
 
PineyBob said:
Maybe the time has come where people have decided that "Enough is Enough"
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You hit the nail right on the head! :up:

For several years now the employees have seen NWA executives receive pay increases of up to 35% per year, new VPs being hired with outrageous incentives while employees benefits are being slashed, record high load factors yet they claim they are losing money on very flight, wasteful corporate spending on building and fleet cosmetics while at the same time NWA claims huge losses, and this year the very bigwigs that claim they are trying to save the company dumps millions upon millions of shares on the market which drives the value down, worker pensions threatened while executive plans are protected and enhanced - including added bonuses and phantom stock gifts, and the list goes on and on.
 
keeptheodds said:
There is alot of hostility here. No doubt that NW management has indeed screwed a lot of stuff up.

That is a major understatement!
Who pays the price for their mistakes? That's correct! The very people who have kept this business going and kept these MBA wonders in a job making 10 times more than the very employees they are now attempting to destroy.
But wait, we have to provide enormous bonuses to these lawyers, restaurant managers and cpa's to keep them from taking their "aviation expertise" and going to another corporation and destroying it.
Imagine the resume'...."What was your greatest accomplishment?" "Well, I assisted in the destruction of a major airline and am proud to report that I put thousands of loyal and dedicated employees out of a job. I believe I did well for myself with my bonuses and my more than adequate "golden parachute"....Who do they think is going to hire a moran with this type reputation. Oh, silly me, another airline?
What these mental midgets don't understand, without the front line employees, they don't have a job.
It must be terrible to try and survive on $450,000 a year after paycuts. Let them come to reality and try it on $30,000 a year supporting a family plus paying for insurance.
To say we are fed up is right on! The comment about like it or leave it, we may just do that. Leave and take all those arrogant "headquarters" guru's with us.
Do unto them before they do it to us!
 
PineyBob said:
Maybe the time has come where people have decided that "Enough is Enough"
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You got it Piney!! While not with NW I feel your pain. The only problem is that no one is willing to bend at all. I hear that NW wants this to happen, they want to be able to fire those striking and move on with the replacments. Scabs or not both MSP and DTW have very high unemployment rates (DTW more the MSP, but still...)

There are people out there that will take the jobs not caring about picket lines or not because they too need to put food on the table. I just hope that the NW employees are going to be able to also.

Yea I have had my job outsourced and been through the ringer too, but the union has to realize that no matter what they do, this one might be a lost cause. That is the problem NW they are to stubborn to care.

Stike will happen, DTW and MSP will crumble within days, operational problems because the replacements are on the learning curve. FA and Pilots will support it causing another bout of problems. NW files BK along with DL and CO before the new laws come into play. GW and Congress stay out of it because they both know the industry needs to "burp". Taxpayers are tired of bailing out the Airlines because they continue to screw up and can't manage money. HP/US merge happens before Oct and reorganize the basis of what an LCC is. Frontier and AirTran continue to expand and JetBlue gets regional. FlyI also goes into BK at the wishings of Branson and he has his US carrier he has been wanting.

Three things are constant in life, death, taxes and change. Things are going to change soon. I hope the best to the dedicated FRONT LINE employees of NW.
 

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