Fatique Risk Management

[twotter]

OK... I'm confused...

But back to the original topic. Duty times are important for safety reasons, however, how will it be monitored? As was mentioned above, it will require a lot of honesty but, I'm afraid that the bank balance will prove to be more of a draw than honesty in many cases.

 

[cap]

Maybe......jussstttttt maybe..........the "unwashed" masses are starting to wake up to the fact that people can only do to them what they LET them do to them. We shall see.

 

[helidude]

We are in the midst of implementing a Fatigue Management Program for our maintenance crew. Any suggestions or tips would be greatly appreciated!!!
I'm somewhat familiar with Airborne's system and it sounds like it's about as simple and effective as it can get.
Any ideas????

Thanks,

 

[Lupin]

Here is an idea some of my pilot friends suggested.I though most would appreciate it.

Although Air Canada limits the duty day to 16 hours in tocm, the rest period between shifts is quite minimal.The way transport canada has it set up for the flight crew....they get 8 hours of uninterupted rest between work periods.

Now, 8 hours of uninterupted rest is quite diferent from 8 hours between shifts. Uninterupted rest suggest that you get to rest for 8 hours without disruptions from the company,that would mean some time is taken into account for getting home,getting to bed and getting up again etc.None of this crap where the company forces you to work 4 extra hours and then be back fresh for your night shift that night.


I used to work for a cargo company where the pilots flew at night.If we had any questions about snags or anything about the airplane, we had to ask in the morning before the crew left for home.If we called them up in the middle of the day,their crew rest started over again.They were allowed 8 hours uninterupted rest.

I'm shure everyone working midnights has had the pleasure of being waken up by management.Therefore you can appreciate the value of such a system.

I wonder how we could push transport to adopt such a system for maintenance?? That would give us some margin for getting more rest and prevent the company from going nuts on the schedualled overtime!And of course it would greatly increase safety for everyone traveling on airplanes

Maybe if as a group we applied pressure to transport,our concerns would get addressed???

Any ideas or suggestions on this subject would be appreciated.

Lupin

 

[arctic_front]

Having thought about this subject way too much, I have come to the belief that there are certain things that will always be irritants to people working night-shift

my observations are as follows:

Management calling during the day, as mentioned by Lupin.

Fetching parts or other supplies as required because 99% of people work normal hours, hence the access to said items are during regular hours

For us Helicopter engineers, no matter how late we work, we have to be there for the morning run-up, leak-check, or general pre-flight once over.

My personal pet peeve, motel/hotel chambermaids than do no understand the meaning of "DO NOT DISTURB"


All the rules TC can implement will never fix items as listed above, but an Ops Mgr. with some sense of reality can go a long way to making things better. Unfortunately, how many can relate to this scenario:

"back in '72 we used to work 36 hours a day, 390 days a year and we made lots of money....what's wrong with you???"

sound familiar??