Financing For Aircraft

[mrfish3726]

No unlicensed mechanics here BUS! And if not for the 3.3 mil write off for 737 lease returns and getting rid of the 737 spares we would have made a real profit. Nothing on paper, but money in the bank. And it is expected that F9 will be fully profitable by spring 2006 .

We'll see how UAL fairs with oil hitting $70 a barrel here in a few weeks ?I really don't see any financial institutions giving UAL any loans with oil at that price! I know that the $67 close today is sure rattleing some cages at WHQ!!! And something that the financial sector is watching to!

 

[Busdrvr]

No unlicensed mechanics here BUS! And if not for the 3.3 mil write off for 737 lease returns and getting rid of the 737 spares we would have made a real profit. Nothing on paper, but money in the bank. And it is expected that F9 will be fully profitable by spring 2006 .

We'll see how UAL fairs with oil hitting $70 a barrel here in a few weeks ?I really don't see any financial institutions giving UAL any loans with oil at that price! I know that the $67 close today is sure rattleing some cages at WHQ!!! And something that the financial sector is watching to!

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Do the math (if you're capable), if you take special items away from both airlines for the Q, UAL outperformed FRNT. That's the facts. Then if you look at it from a cash standpoint, UAL widened the gap.

 

[mrfish3726]

Busdrvr,

Oil at $67 dollars a barrel, we'll see how optomistic you are when it hits $70 a barrel. I know the folks at WHQ are crapping in they're pants with every $1.00 rise in the price of oil. There is NO financial institution in the WORLD that would lend UniTED $2.5B at those odds!

We'll still be here hacking away at UniTED with $99 dollar fares! 😛 Prices they can't match FOREVER! B)

 

[mrfish3726]

Busdrvr,

To remind you AGAIN! United has lost more than $2.5 billion this year and over $7 billion since entering bankruptcy. It hasn't made a profit in more than five years. shock.gif

 

[casual rat]

Fish, How much did Frontier Airlines lose this year?

 

[Busdrvr]

Busdrvr,

Oil at $67 dollars a barrel, we'll see how optomistic you are when it hits $70 a barrel. I know the folks at WHQ are crapping in they're pants with every $1.00 rise in the price of oil. There is NO financial institution in the WORLD that would lend UniTED $2.5B at those odds!

We'll still be here hacking away at UniTED with $99 dollar fares! 😛 Prices they can't match FOREVER! B)

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uh, actually UAL CAN match FRNT's DEN fares for as long as it takes. DEN is just ONE of MANY markets for UAL, including many very lucrative international markets. FRNT has seen it's cash and working cap go DOWN while it's actually sold Jets at a loss in order to lease them back, just so they can protect the cash balance. FRNT ain't a picture of health, and when UAL emerges, it WILL get worse.