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Not very many threads "stay on topic"....I did not know the topic of this thread was having babies in this country for a fee and citizenship. Seems far from a shorted paycheck for 2013... C'mon guys, back to the topic.
SorryI did not know the topic of this thread was having babies in this country for a fee and citizenship. Seems far from a shorted paycheck for 2013... C'mon guys, back to the topic.
Really? Or are you repeating lies your teacher told you during the Cold War? Can you cite any examples of that from Socialists countries? I have relations in China, a Communist country, and people get paid differently at different levels.
Not promoting it just dont like to see such propoaganda go unchallenged. I've read the writings of Adam Smith and Karl Marx, both bring up valid points, there are benefits to competition and inspiring and rewarding ingenuity but there are also benefits to not allowing those who were disproportionatly blessed (with either intellect or chutzpa) from using their power to disenfranchise those who are not. Everyone who contributes to the functioning of a society should benefit from its output.
Wow!..... thats one of the most anti capitalist/un-American statements I've heard in quite a while....Jesus !, I like to look to famous men like John Adams, Thomas Jefferson, and Lincoln,....Not Karl Marxs, ARE YOU FREAKING KIDDING ME ?,...speaking of Lincoln here is one of his quotes that you should heed .......
''That some should be rich, shows that others may become rich, and hence is just encouragement to industry and enterprise. Let not him who is houseless pull down the house of another; but let him labor diligently and build one for himself, thus by example assuring that his own shall be safe from violence when built.''
It is not needed, nor fitting here [in discussing the Civil War] that a general argument should be made in favor of popular institutions; but there is one point, with its connections, not so hackneyed as most others, to which I ask a brief attention. It is the effect to place capital on an equal footing with, if not above, labor, in the structure of government. It is assumed that labor is available only in connection with capital; that nobody labors unless somebody else, owning capital, somehow by the use of it induces him to labor. This assumed, it is next considered whether it is best that capital shall hire laborers, and thus induce them to work by their own consent, or buy them, and drive them to it without their consent. Having proceeded thus far, it is naturally concluded that all laborers are either hired laborers or what we call slaves. And further, it is assumed that whoever is once a hired laborer is fixed in that condition for life.
Now, there is no such relation between capital and labor as assumed, nor is there any such thing as a free man being fixed for life in the condition of a hired laborer. Both these assumptions are false, and all inferences from them are groundless.
"Labor is prior to, and independent of, capital. Capital is only the fruit of labor, and could never have existed if labor had not first existed. Labor is the superior of capital, and deserves much the higher consideration. Capital has its rights, which are as worthy of protection as any other rights.
So what more can we say about our incredibly shrinking checks?
How is that anti-capitalist or un-American?
Is it because he mentions marx? Or because he said that marx had some valid points? You and marx have something in common - you both look up to Lincoln..
Weak, you are the one praising Marxs. I don't think Marxs and Lincoln share anything in common idealogically, nor do I think he would throw the baby out with the bath water on his beliefs in this countrys foundation because a few laws were passed,you,.. not I have your head in the sand on what this country was founded under.