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It's truly a shame that they are paid so poorly with the SWA pilots making more money than most pilots in the industry now.
SWAFA30 said:This is a link I found with pilot pay scales... I don't know how accurate it is but it's a start.
http://www.apapdp.org/pay.comparison.php
I can't speak to Kiowa's assertion about pilot pay. It would be inappropriate for me to comment on pilot pay...just as it is inapporpriate for a pilot to comment on flight attendant pay....I don't do their job...and they don't do mine.
Kiowa,
I do appreciate the thought behind your post. It is nice to know that there is support out there for the flight attendants at Southwest Airlines.
Our negotiations are not about what SWA pilots make, nor are they about what flight attendants at other carriers make. Our negotiations are about securing work rules and compensation that reflect the contribution that our work group makes to one of the most consistently profitable commercial carriers in recent aviation history.
First, Thank You for you words of support. I appreciate that as a member of another work group you have taken the time to pay attention and educate yourself about our negotiationsWNrforlife said:
So, according the chart provided by wwtraveler99, SWA pilots make:kiowa said:It's truly a shame that they are paid so poorly with the SWA pilots making more money than most pilots in the industry now. Very sad indeed. When a company is doing well, then the profits should not go to just one employee group!
True, but WN's pilots make more than AA's 767 pilots and much more than AA's 737 pilots. They also make more than UA's and USAir's 737 pilots. Just wait until DL and NW and CO and the others have their way with their pilots. I am confident that when the dust settles, WN's pilots will be the highest paid 737 pilots in the USA. B)A10Pilot said:So, according the chart provided by wwtraveler99, SWA pilots make:
4% LESS than Air Tran
15% LESS than Continental
22% LESS than Alaska
36% LESS than Northwest
and an WHOPPING 58% LESS than Delta
It would be interesting to see how the F/A pay rates are in comparison to their peers.
I said it over a year ago to the SWA and NWA guys. You WILL have an industry leading contract, the question is where you wan that to be. UAL didn't just invent it's numbers, they looked at pilot costs industry wide and attempted to match the lowest "mature" carrier. "waiting for the economy to get better" as the guys at NWA, AMR and CAL did, merely lowered the bar. BTW, a UAL Capt with 30 years experience will make 155.49 an hour in 2010, and a "new hire" will make less than 2500 a month.FWAAA said:True, but WN's pilots make more than AA's 767 pilots and much more than AA's 737 pilots. They also make more than UA's and USAir's 737 pilots. Just wait until DL and NW and CO and the others have their way with their pilots. I am confident that when the dust settles, WN's pilots will be the highest paid 737 pilots in the USA. B)A10Pilot said:So, according the chart provided by wwtraveler99, SWA pilots make:
4% LESS than Air Tran
15% LESS than Continental
22% LESS than Alaska
36% LESS than Northwest
and an WHOPPING 58% LESS than Delta
It would be interesting to see how the F/A pay rates are in comparison to their peers.
I don't hink they want the position of F/A to be a viable job for a middle age single mother.
Yes, according to the chart provided, WN pilots make more than AA, U, and UAL pilots (roughly 8%, 3%, and 5% more). But, two of these three are in/just out of bankruptcy and the other is teetering on the edge.FWAAA said:True, but WN's pilots make more than AA's 767 pilots and much more than AA's 737 pilots. They also make more than UA's and USAir's 737 pilots. Just wait until DL and NW and CO and the others have their way with their pilots. I am confident that when the dust settles, WN's pilots will be the highest paid 737 pilots in the USA. B)
KCFlyer Posted on Sep 15 2003, 05:49 PM
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I don't hink they want the position of F/A to be a viable job for a middle age single mother.
You mean like that 80 year old FA they have at UAL?
Wow...and I thought the winking smilie was a giveaway. What I thought was a sly comeback for Busdrivers comment about "new blood" in the FA ranks. I believe I read somewhere where UAL (or maybe it was AA) had a flight attendant who was nearly 80 working for them. Nothing anti elderly/woman/fa in that anywhere that I can see - hell, more power to her to keep it up til she's 90.Fly said:Harsh comment about UAL f/a's. Are you suggesting that age discrimination should be legal in the states? Or... should that only apply to flight attendants? or just women? Are you prepared to lose your job because you become too old? Please tell! :angry:
I dont know what the pilots make but SWA mechanics make around $200/week more than AA mechanics. AA mechanics are represented by the TWU, for now.A10Pilot said:Could you please back up this statement? What are the pay rates for other major carriers flying narrowbody (737s or equivalent) and the pay rates for SWA?