Flt crew delays or cxls

[IMisstheAladdinTrays]

the customers can get over it...the employees need to do what they need to do...I would just call Tempe and go off on them, not the pilots...oh, by the way....can you get me a vodka and tonic with a lime and hang up my coat? thanks, dear

I would hang up your coat...if we still had hangers. Same thing with the limes =)

 

[qwerty]

the customers can get over it...the employees need to do what they need to do...I would just call Tempe and go off on them, not the pilots...oh, by the way....can you get me a vodka and tonic with a lime and hang up my coat? thanks, dear

Using that logic, shouldn't the pilots complain to ALPA, rather than the company?

 

[hp_fa]

the customers can get over it...

What?

 

[usfa304]

I will be the first to state that this is unjust, BUT this is NOT an issue to be taken up with the company by cancelling flights and inconveniencing passengers. To stomp in your sandbox on the playground is completely the WRONG thing to do. You are only hurting the cause for everyone.

Only stating my opinion.

Thanks for listening

 

[Hawkhunter]

I will be the first to state that this is unjust, BUT this is NOT an issue to be taken up with the company by cancelling flights and inconveniencing passengers. To stomp in your sandbox on the playground is completely the WRONG thing to do. You are only hurting the cause for everyone.

Only stating my opinion.

Thanks for listening

There is no job action taking place. We are short of crews period. Why do you think they are POTA everyday for the last several years?

 

[FlightChic]

I had two flights this morning BOS-PHL and PHL-BOS and both were cancelled. I also had a flight tomorrow morning BOS-PHL and it has been cancelled as well. I also noticed in the airport flights to and from Washington were cancelled. From what I have heard, the company has strategically cancelled certain flights so pilots can't get to and from Washington. I also heard 39 trip pairings were cancelled yesterday. Some of the scheduled flights were cancelled due to pilots and others were because of the company. I wish all the best to our pilots! I hope you all can get back your seniority and make things right for you all. Had it not been for the cancellations and crazy things going on in the system with my trip, I would have gone to support you all.

 

[usfa304]

The only time they're short of crews is during HOLIDAYS....and UNION STRIFE...gimme a break on that one...and if my A** is stuck here in Europe tomorrow...i'm NOT going to be a happy camper...capiche?...yes...i'm a F/A...you know the one who FEEDS you...<smile>-<wink>

 

[Informed1]

the customers can get over it...the employees need to do what they need to do...I would just call Tempe and go off on them, not the pilots...oh, by the way....can you get me a vodka and tonic with a lime and hang up my coat? thanks, dear

Okay, so I know this is going to make some angry, BUT, i'm only stating fact and point. First, the pilots need to be upset with ALPA, they are the ones who sent this thing to arbitration and the arbitrator decided the result. No one at US Airways, not Doug, not Scott, NO ONE, made that relative seniority decision. Secondly, we all have sucky contracts. And guess what? The majority of our work groups voted for them so now we are stuck with them. That also had nothing to do with this management or the company. The workgroups voted for it. Keep in mind, this time a little over 2.5 years ago, there was almost no US Airways. Again, I'm only stating a point. I support 100% work actions that force the company to negotiate a new fair contract, but we can't be angry over the existing one we have.

 

[usfa304]

Okay, so I know this is going to make some angry, BUT, i'm only stating fact and point. First, the pilots need to be upset with ALPA, they are the ones who sent this thing to arbitration and the arbitrator decided the result. No one at US Airways, not Doug, not Scott, NO ONE, made that relative seniority decision. Secondly, we all have sucky contracts. And guess what? The majority of our work groups voted for them so now we are stuck with them. That also had nothing to do with this management or the company. The workgroups voted for it. Keep in mind, this time a little over 2.5 years ago, there was almost no US Airways. Again, I'm only stating a point. I support 100% work actions that force the company to negotiate a new fair contract, but we can't be angry over the existing one we have.

THANK YOU!!

 

[phlus2]

the customers can get over it...the employees need to do what they need to do...

So if the customers can just get over it - why can't the employees also just get over it? Seems like a double standard.

And, I as a customer certainly had nothing to do with the Pilots Union going to arbitration - so why should it even have any impact on me? Like you said - just get over it!

 

[usfa304]

So if the customers can just get over it - why can't the employees also just get over it? Seems like a double standard.

And, I as a customer certainly had nothing to do with the Pilots Union going to arbitration - so why should it even have any impact on me? Like you said - just get over it!

I totally agree with you. So please SMILE <wink if you have to> at your next Flight Attendant..!!

 

[FrugalFlyerv2.0]

the customers can get over it...

The customers will get over it. They have other (better) options.

 

[Art at ISP]

I agree--the customers will get over it. They will go to DL or CO or AA or whatever works for them, and once they experience the service provided elsewhere, they just won't be back.

The customers are not at fault here, and do not deserve to be inconvenienced by a "job action". Also, that the company would even CONSIDER cancelling strategic flights just so pilots couldn't get to the meeting in DC is preposterous, and if true, unconscionable. What kind of message is that giving the customers? "It's okay to inconvenience you because we don't want our pilots attending an ALPA hearing".....I have trouble believing that.

That said, for once the fault does not lie with the company--it lies with ALPA--I sympathize with those who got hosed in this award, but it APPEARS to me that they had a chance to settle this fairly and ALPA refused.

I am not getting into that debate--suffice to say when customers are inconvenienced because of an alleged job action, then I most certainly will speak up--and advise my nearly 800 members to take their business elsewhere until or unless things settle down. I do NOT think this is what anyone wants, but I have to protect my members...when we cannot rely on US to transport us reliably to our destinations, then we cannot in good conscience stay around.....

That's it in a nutshell......

I wish you all well.....

 

[PA18]

Also, that the company would even CONSIDER cancelling strategic flights just so pilots couldn't get to the meeting in DC is preposterous, and if true, unconscionable. What kind of message is that giving the customers? "It's okay to inconvenience you because we don't want our pilots attending an ALPA hearing".....I have trouble believing that.

Art,

They would and they have.

On the morning of the first picketing event in CLT last November, certain morning flights from crew domiciles into CLT were strategically cancelled.

 

[CaptainZitface]

US MAINLINE

May 18 DAY
Flights 1537
Cancellations 15
Completion Factor 99.0

May 19 DAY
Flights 1290
Cancellations 9
Completion Factor 99.3


May 20 DAY
Flights 1413
Cancellations 51
Completion Factor 96.5

So please SMILE <wink if you have to> at your next Flight Attendant..!!

I would but I'm afraid he's going to get the wrong impression 😛 😀 B)