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On 11/9/2002 10:43:06 AM ua767fo wrote:
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On 11/9/2002 10
16 AM CaptBud330 wrote:
UA767FO...give me a break. First of all, your assumption that the majors will be calling back all those pilots is completely wrong. Aside from minimal growth and attrition, those unfortunate pilots will be on the beach for a LONG time.All the meaningful growth will be with the regionals as they assume mainline flying on less lucrative routes.
Second, it is very easy to pontificate when you have a job. With the dismal job market now, I wouldn't blame any pilot with a family to support for accepting a job with Freeedom. Prin****l is a marvelous ideal, but you sure can't eat it.
As a final comment, your saying once a scab always a scab? I guess ALPO doesn't share your feelings now that they have Continental on the payroll.
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Interesting reply, wouldnt have expected anything else.
Your right, Prin****l is a marvelous ideal. Why throw it out the window, get down on your knees, beg for a job under any working condition and at anyone elses expense? Kind of like scabs do.
Personally, I'm happy that the Continental pilots are back in ALPA and actively promoted their coming back into the Association. First, they dont have alot of scabs left, and those who are, have been reidentified and put in the spotlight. Second, we need all airlines, large and small, paying professional wages and affording quality working conditions. This can only happen if we're all on the same sheet of music.
Lastly, I dont assume all pilots will be recalled, at any airline. I doubt that in 5 years, all of the top 10 names will still be flying under their logos. But the US Aviation infrastructure will remain in place, traffic will pick up, and sometime in the future, there will again be a shortage of pilots out there. I disagree with your assumption that all of the long term groath is in regionals. Actually, the pendulum may be swinging back the other way.
Btw, I was furloughed from USAir in '91....took quite a while to get another high quality job. Didn't sacrifice my principles, did what was necessary and right to put food on the table and pay the mortgage. I would say 'I hope those that go to freedom can live with themselves', then again, here at UAL I see scabs everyday in their own little world. They're still the greedy *******s padding their monthly paychecks while we have guys furloughed. Just like many of the AAA pilots did.
DENVER,CO
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That's what the mechanic and related employees need to do as well. We need unionization everywhere - the biggest threat to our jobs IS NOT DAVE, but rather contract maintenance. As long as the option exists for a company to hire out the work at a lower cost (even if the quality stinks), the airline will, in their true plans, want to do that. That ends up putting downward wages on the rest of us. We need all mechanics and related, from commuters to contract, to mainline to DEMAND EQUAL PAY FOR EQUAL WORK. If you sign off an airplane or fix it, you are just as responsible as the guy who did it for more money than you.