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Garfield, why do you think people are drawn to 9-11 conspiracy theories? Because it makes them feel smarter than they actually are.
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Not to be off topic :blink:
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A voice from Iraq worth hearing
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Excellent link UAL TECH....
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So, which of these 2 soldiers is your hero?
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Garfield1966
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Maybe but this does not fit what I see as the norm for conspiracies. With JFK the footage is grainy, no sound … I guess there are other possibilities. With TWA there was conflicting witnesses who swear they saw an exhaust trail from a missile. But this is on a far different level. There are 3 aircraft that were known to be hijacked. 2 of them took out the towers, a 3rd was a lawn dart in PA (it's final destination unknown). Why is it so hard for people to accept that the 4th hit the Pentagon? There are witnesses who saw it. There is forensic evidence to support it. There is not other explanation for where the missing plane, crew and passengers are.
This is like someone insisting that water is not wet. Does the government lie to us? Is the pope catholic? They lie dam near every time they move their lips. The try to cover their collective dumb asses at every turn.
The main question I want an answer to from the folks who think it did not happen is "why blow up the Pentagon?" What purpose would it serve? Do you really think that a secret like that could be kept quiet? Until I get logical answers to these questions, I’ll stick with common sense… It was Mork from Ork. Never did trust him….Naa Noo Naa Noo.
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...And 19 Arab cave dwellers outsmarting the most sophisticated air defenses in the world is not a stretch?
I don't claim to know where the airplane that supposedly hit the Pentagon is. All I know is that there is plenty of unanswered questions which have not been answered to my satisfaction....and others too.
Never mind the Pentagon. Check this out.
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First of all, these nuts did not dwell in a cave but used the ‘liberal’ loopholes in our government to obtain training in the US. Then to be so cheap as to buy one way tickets, CA$H, no luggage and still be allowed on the plane.
We have learned nothing and it will happen again. :down:
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They continually probed our security systems and measures over many months and years....and it ended up like taking candy from a baby it was so easy.Suddenly the first things changed were in fact boarding security,and you have doubts about these sophisticated cavemen?
They weren't cavemen by any means....they lived among US and Europe invisibly and made painstaking detailed studies of us and our ways....
I remember the savages that stuck it up Custers butt.....
So easy a caveman could do it....
Garfield1966
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Yea, what they said.
Come on. You think the pre 9/11 security was going to be able to stop them? You'd have to be walking through the metal detector with a stinger on your shoulder before they would even get suspicious and then you still had a 50/50 chance.
Cave men? It would appear that you, W, Rummy and Cheney went to the same school. Underestimate your foe and see where it gets you. Plus there is the fact that the US defense system that you mention is designed to detect things in bound from out side the country. No one was looking inside and no one expected 4 planes to be commandeered and slammed into buildings.
You still have not answered a few questions. Why blow the Pentagon? How did they time the blowing of the Pentagon to coincide with the attack on the towers? How do you get together a conspiracy in 50 some odd minutes (the time from the 1st plan into the tower to the plan that went into the Pentagon. Do you think the Pentagon is covering up that the Pentagon was damaged by some other form of terrorism? How did the street lights get knocked down? Where did AA's 4 flight attendants, 2 pilots and the 100 some odd passengers go? Did Uncle Sam just line them up and shoot them or are they in a gulag in Siberia? Also, given the fact that the defense system was on Condition 1 alert after the accident, don’t you think someone would have seen a 757 sneaking off somewhere?
Geez, before people go off half cocked about some sort of conspiracy, they ought to at least have a plausible alternative. Just from my amateur POV, I would think that if an aircraft is going to hit a building at 400 MPH plus, the momentum alone is going to push most if not all of the plane into the building. I would not think there would be a hell of a lot of debris laying around.
Oh good lord. Those links are the funniest thing I have read in a while. OK, so now you are insinuating that explosives were set in the twin towers on nearly the exact floors of BOTH towers where the planes hit (there were never any explosions seen or reported after the planes hit so if there were explosions they had to be at the same time and same location of the impacts) and you are also implying that the people who set the explosions also commandeered the planes to finish the job? Let me know if I missed anything. I love how that Romero schmuck says that a small amount of explosives could have been used? Every Demo I have seen on TV on far smaller buildings looks like WWIII going off when they bring down the building. You see explosions all over the place to bring it down in controlled fashion.
A quote from your link
As anyone can see, in very short order, only the mast remains. Tones and tones of cement, masonry, ceramics, glass, office equipment, furnishings, metal, and asbestos have been turned into a pulverized dust and have been exhumed into a mushroom cloud in about 1 second. The amount of energy required to do that is beyond comprehension -- and CANNOT be achieved by gravity alone.
This sounds like A LOT OF EXPLOSIVES MUST HAVE BEEN USED. And no one saw it being installed over a period of time? Yea right.
You really need to watch a show on demolition. Beams are cut, shaped charges are placed all around the building. ALL the charges are WIRED TOGETHER too ONE master control and then BOOM! Now of course, this was done in TWO buildings. Now here is the part I don't get. You say that it is suspicious that "cave men" were able to bypass all the security. So I take the people who were able to set and wire all these explosives (BTW, Romero says only a little was needed but further down the page it indicates that charges were following the collapse down so which is it?) with out anyone noticing (security, employees no one…) also managed to commander these planes and fly them into the buildings?
One more question… ARE YOU OUT OF YOUR FREAKING MIND????????? This crap has more holes than swiss cheese.
Come on. You think the pre 9/11 security was going to be able to stop them? You'd have to be walking through the metal detector with a stinger on your shoulder before they would even get suspicious and then you still had a 50/50 chance.
Cave men? It would appear that you, W, Rummy and Cheney went to the same school. Underestimate your foe and see where it gets you. Plus there is the fact that the US defense system that you mention is designed to detect things in bound from out side the country. No one was looking inside and no one expected 4 planes to be commandeered and slammed into buildings.
You still have not answered a few questions. Why blow the Pentagon? How did they time the blowing of the Pentagon to coincide with the attack on the towers? How do you get together a conspiracy in 50 some odd minutes (the time from the 1st plan into the tower to the plan that went into the Pentagon. Do you think the Pentagon is covering up that the Pentagon was damaged by some other form of terrorism? How did the street lights get knocked down? Where did AA's 4 flight attendants, 2 pilots and the 100 some odd passengers go? Did Uncle Sam just line them up and shoot them or are they in a gulag in Siberia? Also, given the fact that the defense system was on Condition 1 alert after the accident, don’t you think someone would have seen a 757 sneaking off somewhere?
Geez, before people go off half cocked about some sort of conspiracy, they ought to at least have a plausible alternative. Just from my amateur POV, I would think that if an aircraft is going to hit a building at 400 MPH plus, the momentum alone is going to push most if not all of the plane into the building. I would not think there would be a hell of a lot of debris laying around.
Oh good lord. Those links are the funniest thing I have read in a while. OK, so now you are insinuating that explosives were set in the twin towers on nearly the exact floors of BOTH towers where the planes hit (there were never any explosions seen or reported after the planes hit so if there were explosions they had to be at the same time and same location of the impacts) and you are also implying that the people who set the explosions also commandeered the planes to finish the job? Let me know if I missed anything. I love how that Romero schmuck says that a small amount of explosives could have been used? Every Demo I have seen on TV on far smaller buildings looks like WWIII going off when they bring down the building. You see explosions all over the place to bring it down in controlled fashion.
A quote from your link
As anyone can see, in very short order, only the mast remains. Tones and tones of cement, masonry, ceramics, glass, office equipment, furnishings, metal, and asbestos have been turned into a pulverized dust and have been exhumed into a mushroom cloud in about 1 second. The amount of energy required to do that is beyond comprehension -- and CANNOT be achieved by gravity alone.
This sounds like A LOT OF EXPLOSIVES MUST HAVE BEEN USED. And no one saw it being installed over a period of time? Yea right.
You really need to watch a show on demolition. Beams are cut, shaped charges are placed all around the building. ALL the charges are WIRED TOGETHER too ONE master control and then BOOM! Now of course, this was done in TWO buildings. Now here is the part I don't get. You say that it is suspicious that "cave men" were able to bypass all the security. So I take the people who were able to set and wire all these explosives (BTW, Romero says only a little was needed but further down the page it indicates that charges were following the collapse down so which is it?) with out anyone noticing (security, employees no one…) also managed to commander these planes and fly them into the buildings?
One more question… ARE YOU OUT OF YOUR FREAKING MIND????????? This crap has more holes than swiss cheese.
Ed Norton
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Yeah, yeah, hero this! I fell for the "serve your country" bull shite when I was a kid too. By a twist of fate I missed out on getting blown up inside the Marine barracks in Beirut in 1983. Back then I was gung-ho blood and guts. What a fool!So, which of these 2 soldiers is your hero?
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I feel nothing but pain whenever I hear about someone dying in Iraq or Afghanistan. I see those boys(and girls thanks to the phony liberals in Congress) every day at the airport and I can't help but wonder how many will not come back. Tell me, what will Sgt. Mickel David Garrigus' widow do now? She has a folded flag, some consolation. What about the child who will grow up fatherless? YOU can kiss my ass! The only two things worth fighting for are your home and the Bill of Rights.
How many Senators' sons do you hear die in Iraq?
How many children of priviledge are comming back home without arms or legs?
I don't see Jenna and Barbara Bush driving a fuel truck through Basra.
The government either allowed 9/11 to occur or set the whole thing in motion. Why? To expand the American Corporate Empire. George Bush? Yeah he's in on it but he's a mere puppet like the rest of them. I won't send my kids off to die to make some arse holes richer. :angry:
Wave your chinese made flags as YOU send your kids off. May God watch over them and keep them safe.
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Garfield1966
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You think our government could pull that off AND keep it quiet? You give those idiots alot more credit than I do.
BTW, you still have not anwered any of the questions I posed or addressed any of the conflicting statements in your own link.
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UAL_TECH
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Yeah, yeah, hero this! I fell for the "serve your country" bull shite when I was a kid too. By a twist of fate I missed out on getting blown up inside the Marine barracks in Beirut in 1983. Back then I was gung-ho blood and guts. What a fool!
I feel nothing but pain whenever I hear about someone dying in Iraq or Afghanistan. I see those boys(and girls thanks to the phony liberals in Congress) every day at the airport and I can't help but wonder how many will not come back. Tell me, what will Sgt. Mickel David Garrigus' widow do now? She has a folded flag, some consolation. What about the child who will grow up fatherless? YOU can kiss my ass! The only two things worth fighting for are your home and the Bill of Rights.
How many Senators' sons do you hear die in Iraq?
How many children of priviledge are comming back home without arms or legs?
I don't see Jenna and Barbara Bush driving a fuel truck through Basra.
The government either allowed 9/11 to occur or set the whole thing in motion. Why? To expand the American Corporate Empire. George Bush? Yeah he's in on it but he's a mere puppet like the rest of them. I won't send my kids off to die to make some arse holes richer. :angry:
Wave your chinese made flags as YOU send your kids off. May God watch over them and keep them safe.
After he enlisted, signed his contract and took his oath, he (as did you and I) gave up certain rights to protect and defend his country and do his duty.
After this, one cannot say no to a deployment because it is not what they ‘thought’.
Sorry but your skills are not needed in Afghanistan but we decided to send you to:
Iraq, nope to dangerous
Somalia, nope too humid
Bosnia, nope, too cold
Are we looking for vacationers or soldiers? WTF?
