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KCFlyer
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He'd have to be a slow mass shooter. You are assuming you KNOW it's coming. The one advantage mass shooters have is that they know what they are going to do. You would have to react. The normal human response is to flee. But while others are fleeing...the brave gun owner with his smith and wesson stays put....standing out like a sore thumb to the mass shooter....as the barrel of his 38 is just clearing his waistband - he's been hit 5 times.townpete said:
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Just goes to show how little you know about guns and the people who carry. There been plenty of incidents where they were stopped before they got off a round. Even mentioned several times here.KCFlyer said:
Stick to your day job.
As this you know nothing about.
Pretty easy to tell the difference between the person who carries, or not, for personal protection and whatever other reasons and those who do it to show off, "be somebody", identify with a group or idelogy, or because they are tin men without it.
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"Own guns and use them". Strange way to put it. When the situation warrants? So you just know ahead of time if your life or others could be in jeopardy and you might need to defend yourself. That's some real forsight you have. I bet the lady doctor that watched her parents die by a armed madman who drove his truck into a Kileen Tx Lubys in 1991 would call you a moron. She left her weapon in her car, because the Lubys was a "gun free zone".Ifly2 said:
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Never have seen any CHL holder or anyone trained in firearms carry to "show off". Its concealed carry for a reason, not to "be somebody". Open carry isn't showing off either, its the only way to carry a rifle and it's soon to be law in January, and it also upsets the terrified libtard in the unrealistic non-existent "safe spaces" they can only dream of. The only armed "showoffs" I have ever heard of or seen, is the gang bangers/criminals that the gun laws don't affect at all. You know, like in Chiraq and other "safe liberal city spaces". In addition, you don't carry or shoot, BS. No one that does says they "use guns" that really have them. They say "I target shoot" "I hunt" "I go to the range". Your an anti-gun anti-second ammendment NRA hating Obammy voting liberal, just stick with the facts.Ifly2 said:
KCFlyer said:
That's at least the normal liberal response, and one grants self preservation to be an instinctive issue, but spring loaded just "to flee" isn't so entirely universal a trait as might be imagined. Many circumstances can arise in life where "to flee" would only ensure one's own demise.
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You may not have
I have known responsible, serious and concerned gun owners and CHL holders, and I have known others, and Auxiliary LEO's, and FFDO's who were more impressed with how impressive they were with their guns than with the responsibility that goes with it.
A fella' named George Zimmerman would be a prime example of the latter.
Flee?, or Fight?
The Thing is to get past the "human response", or "feeling", and use reason applied to tje facts and situation to make a rational and hopefully correct decision.
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"Flee?, or Fight?" Interesting that (as a liberal) you chose "Flee" as your first option, when what you're referencing is clinically described as the "Fight or Flight" response in humankind, and not the reverse. Just sayin'....
http://www.thebodysoulconnection.com/EducationCenter/fight.html
"The Thing is to get past the "human response", or "feeling", and use reason applied to tje facts and situation to make a rational and hopefully correct decision." Indeed...assuming one has the full luxury of sufficiently relaxing time in which to apply your fantasized "reason". Herd animals can always run. Human beings are, by means of proven evolutionary "standards" necessarily held to a somewhat higher standard.
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No argument with that zimmeran creature being a complete psycho.
Ifly2: "The Thing is to get past the "human response", or "feeling", and use reason applied to tje facts and situation to make a rational and hopefully correct decision." Umm...Per your personal notions of "reason" though; might one assume your following post about Hillary to be fully representative of your levels of dispassionate and fully dependable "reason" to honestly be expected in any immediately dire/life/death situation? = "Gonna be a real hoot when she is elected Just in entertainment value, watching the drones' lose their collective minds"...?
No matter really. Ifly2: "The Thing is to get past the "human response", or "feeling", and use reason applied to tje facts and situation to make a rational and hopefully correct decision." Everyone entering a combat theater wonders a bit about how well they'll actually do if/when under enemy fire. Only the most arrogantly fatuous infants could continue to imagine that they'd somehow, as if by magic, always have ample time to "reason" things out...which I think fully describes the whole "liberal thing" you're trying to feed all here in an appropriate "nut" shell.
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Just for the record...I'm not a fan of Hillary. BUT....given what the GOP is planning to offer up as a choice - she's the better choice. The only GOP candidate that has half a chance to pull "undecided" voters is also polling at the bottom - Kasich. But he isn't a far right....fringe candidate. So you all are setting yourselves up for a democratic win. When all you offer is nutcases, you're going to lose.
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Vote as you please. All empires fall over time....It's just supremely sad to see what was once "The Beacon of the Free World" being intentionally destroyed from within by fully (and all too easily) deceived "useful idiots" as Comrade Stalin would've said. Oh well...Ultimately; people "get the government they deserve"....and what you "liberal" people are actually bringing on yourselves (however unknowingly) has been so often seen throughout history as to make it all now seem just a tragic joke/waste.
No worries though. You can always seek shelter behind the likes of Ifly2...assuming he's chosen other than to "Flee" first, and has had ample time to "reason" everything out.
Kindly excuse the meanderings of an old man's mind here, since I think the last unquestionably real American and actual Man to live in the White House was murdered in 1963. For myself, my sons and my Family since the birthing of the Republic of Texas; we "gave at the office" and did our best. There are however, NO methods by which to protect people from cultural, national and even perhaps personal "suicide" through their utter foolishness.
