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Has USAPA declared success

Funny how all metrics have seen steady improvements for over 3 years and all of a suddenly the bottom drops out in May without the company changing anything?
Call me skeptical.

You're skeptical.
 
Funny how all metrics have seen steady improvements for over 3 years and all of a suddenly the bottom drops out in May without the company changing anything?
Call me skeptical.


There have been changes! You are not a pilot, so you don't know what they are and it's not a good idea to go into any thing more specific here than we already have. Maybe you should stick to what you do.

You never got back to me on my offer. Still available, one turbine oil potpourri burner if you think there is no harm breathing the fumes.
 
And WHO do you think this is benefiting? We are at or near the bottom in every metric for the month of June, thanks in most part to USAPA's illegal job actions.
Don't worry. It's a small price to pay for the long term benefit of real "reform" in the pilot ranks.
 
Don't worry. It's a small price to pay for the long term benefit of real "reform" in the pilot ranks.

It's not reform. What the company has managed to do is really piss of those of us that never did participate in an illegal job actions and still did our jobs at top level.
 
Funny how all metrics have seen steady improvements for over 3 years and all of a suddenly the bottom drops out in May without the company changing anything?
Call me skeptical.

The east deniers are like the little kid with frosting all over his face next to a cake that has been grabbed and eaten. USAPA is standing there trying to look all innocent and saying "I didn't do it!"

Seriously, the BS meter is breaking past the redline on this. You are gonna get spanked, and hopefully the company will toss the most egregious offenders on their arse as an example to the rest of the lolly gaggers. Stop hurting the airline for your petty baloney. Its your fault we are at this mess, or were you all not really serious when you agreed to binding arbitration?
 
You are gonna get spanked, and hopefully the company will toss the most egregious offenders on their arse as an example to the rest of the lolly gaggers.

If the company has the evidence to "toss the most egregious offenders on their arse", why don't they do it and stop dragging the rest of us through the mud, and wasting all the money in court? No scapegoat with that though.
 
It's not reform. What the company has managed to do is really piss of those of us that never did participate in an illegal job actions and still did our jobs at top level.

If you feel the need to expend the energy to be pissed off, then deflect that energy in the right direction - at USAPA. They started this, fueled it and owned it. It will all be proven in a North Carolina courtroom near you.
 
It's not reform. What the company has managed to do is really piss of those of us that never did participate in an illegal job actions and still did our jobs at top level.
What exactly are you blaming Management for? USAPA is 100% to blame. USAPA refuses to accept the results of binding arbitration; USAPA has threatened Management with work stoppages if they refuse to breach the Transition Agreement; USAPA is duly charged with ensuring that the pilots maintain the status quo and has failed to do so; USAPA has called for the termination of a US Airways VP without cause; USAPA has placed their pilots careers in harm's way with their transparent and illegal slowdown lanyard/on board campaign; USAPA has taken out two misleading and damaging USA Today ads because they are too weak to negotiate at the bargaining table; USAPA has failed to unite the pilot ranks so that very clear performance variances can be ascertained between CLT/PHL and PHX/LAS; USAPA has injured the company financially and disrupted passengers to advance their own agenda of DOH which only benefits the east pilots. USAPA does all of this and you want to blame Management?

If USAPA would accept the NIC, complete the JCBA negotiations, and cease and desist from disrupting airline operations - all of which is their direct responsibility - then what grounds would Management have to sue the pilots? If you want to do your job at the top level without messy labor issues, then you would be best served by focusing your displeasure at the one organization that is preventing you for doing so - USAPA.
 
If you feel the need to expend the energy to be pissed off, then deflect that energy in the right direction - at USAPA. They started this, fueled it and owned it. It will all be proven in a North Carolina courtroom near you.

Trust me, I have expended plenty of frustration at USAPA for years, but the buck stops with the company, they started, fueled(great term) and own it.
 
If the company has the evidence to "toss the most egregious offenders on their arse", why don't they do it and stop dragging the rest of us through the mud, and wasting all the money in court? No scapegoat with that though.

What is wrong with doing analysis? Making an airtight case? Using multiple regression analysis?

You should be aiming your anger at your USAPA brothers who are pulling these shenanigans rather than whining about management. East pilots are doing the concerted effort (and leaving a nice paper trail)
 
It's not reform. What the company has managed to do is really piss of those of us that never did participate in an illegal job actions and still did our jobs at top level.
What are you going to do about if?

Slow down?
 
It's a shame that adults who should know better confuse their constitutional right to demonstrate their anger with government, with some dreamed up right to do the same with a private sector business. If you are unhappy you have the right to either be represented by a union which under limited circumstances can strike, or quit and not much else.

The judge in Charlotte will explain that to ya later this week.
 
[quote/]You never got back to me on my offer. Still available, one turbine oil potpourri burner if you think there is no harm breathing the fumes.
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Water separator "socks" have had varying degrees of stinkiness since the first ACM were invented. But you'd need both experience and honesty to acknowledge that you already know that. How many FA's ever suffered from this before being stoked by the lanyard brigade? A number close to zero?
 
It's not reform. What the company has managed to do is really piss of those of us that never did participate in an illegal job actions and still did our jobs at top level.
So in the alternative the company is just supposed to eat the $377,000 a day? I don't think so. What lays ahead for the company is the ultimate hammer. My hunch is that operational metrics miraculously improve once they have that hammer and use it on two dozen or so pilots. Problem solved.
 

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