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[luv2fly]

Link

"The severance plan provides some protection that is intended to reduce unwanted attrition,"

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[Paul]

Just to add to this:

Delta Air Lines Pilots Open Strike Center

As Delta Air Lines Inc. announced new international destinations Thursday, its pilots opened a strike center to prepare for the possibility of a walkout. A top executive, however, said the friction won't stand in the way of the bankrupt carrier's expansion plans.

The nation's third-largest carrier and the negotiating committee of the union that represents its 6,000 pilots have less than three weeks to reach a comprehensive agreement on a second round of permanent pay and benefit cuts.

If the sides can't do that by March 1, a three-person arbitration panel will decide Atlanta-based Delta's request that its contract with its pilots be thrown out so the company can impose $325 million in cuts unilaterally.

The pilots union, which has offered about $115 million in annual concessions, says a strike remains a possibility if the contract is rejected.

The chairman of the union's executive committee, Lee Moak, told pilots in a memo Wednesday night that he has directed the official opening of a strike center, an office where pilots would prepare for the possibility of a walkout.

ABC News

 

[luvthe9]

http://biz.yahoo.com/ap/060209/delta.html?.v=13

 

[WNrforlife]

We'll find out soon whether or not that bankruptcy court judge is going to let Delta Airlines void their contract with the Delta pilot's union. The union, as unions will do, is talking tough. A Delta pilots union said "If our contract is rejected we will strike, and we will strike at a time and place of our choosing."

How brave! How bold! How typically union! Your employer is fighting for its very life, and you're out there beating your chest and talking about strikes.

Remember, there is precedence for this. It is quite likely that a pilot's union strike would destroy Delta airlines. Would a pilot's union do this? Hell yes they would! Have you forgotten Eastern Airlines? At Eastern you had the sad case of a union going on strike with the specific objection of destroying its own employer. Those Eastern pilots wanted Eastern Airlines to fail, and they got their wish. Some of those pilots never flew for money again ... a likely outcome that, if it were not for the union mob mentality, these pilots might have foreseen.

These Delta pilots need to ask themselves a question. Are they professional, highly skilled pilots? Or are they merely union laborers on a par with someone working an assembly line? Are they individuals, or just part of a mob?

What do I think? I don't think they're stupid enough to go on strike. Maybe that's just wishful thinking. They are, after all, union members.

 

[luv2fly]

We'll find out soon whether or not that bankruptcy court judge is going to let Delta Airlines void their contract with the Delta pilot's union.

Oh so much naivetivity. Where do I start?
A little research would have revealed to you that the contract is no longer in the hands of the BK court. It will now be up to a three man board to determine which proposal will prevail.

How brave! How bold! How typically union!
How typical? Isn't it ironic that your own employer is one of the one most highly unionized in the industry? I am sure when those precious hedges start running out your cost structure will still support the now highest wages in the industry. :unsure:


What do I think? I don't think they're stupid enough to go on strike.
I think you have adequately displayed enough stupidity for everyone on this board. Perhaps you should meander back to your own where you are equally uninformed.

 

[TheDog2004]

DALPA agreed to binding arbitration and thinks they have the right to strike? I don't get it. What's the point of agreeing to arbitration if they still think they have the right to strike?

 

[F16B747PUKE]

DALPA agreed to binding arbitration and thinks they have the right to strike? I don't get it. What's the point of agreeing to arbitration if they still think they have the right to strike?

I didn't see the "binding" word in the article?!?

 

[frankbooth]

We'll find out soon whether or not that bankruptcy court judge is going to let Delta Airlines void their contract with the Delta pilot's union. The union, as unions will do, is talking tough. A Delta pilots union said "If our contract is rejected we will strike, and we will strike at a time and place of our choosing."

How brave! How bold! How typically union! Your employer is fighting for its very life, and you're out there beating your chest and talking about strikes.

Remember, there is precedence for this. It is quite likely that a pilot's union strike would destroy Delta airlines. Would a pilot's union do this? Hell yes they would! Have you forgotten Eastern Airlines? At Eastern you had the sad case of a union going on strike with the specific objection of destroying its own employer. Those Eastern pilots wanted Eastern Airlines to fail, and they got their wish. Some of those pilots never flew for money again ... a likely outcome that, if it were not for the union mob mentality, these pilots might have foreseen.

These Delta pilots need to ask themselves a question. Are they professional, highly skilled pilots? Or are they merely union laborers on a par with someone working an assembly line? Are they individuals, or just part of a mob?

What do I think? I don't think they're stupid enough to go on strike. Maybe that's just wishful thinking. They are, after all, union members.

Well, you are either a celebrity lurker or a plagerist. You just completely lifted that from Neal Boortz's website http://boortz.com. You need to get a life and some original thought processes. Unless you actually ARE Neal Boortz, then I apologize.

 

[Borescope]

Ah, but do you know if Neal Boortz lifted it off these pages to paste into his article ???

 

[DLFlyer31]

What's the point of agreeing to arbitration if they still think they have the right to strike?

The arbitration is only to decide if DL can void the pilots contract. If the arbitrators say no, the contract will stay in place and the pilots and management will have to find some kind of compromise.

If the arbitrators say yes, DL management can dump the old contract and implement a new one. However, dumping the old contract would free the pilots to strike.

 

[luv2fly]

DALPA agreed to binding arbitration and thinks they have the right to strike? I don't get it. What's the point of agreeing to arbitration if they still think they have the right to strike?

You are correct. You don't get it. As DLflyer stated, the arbitration is only to determine whether or not the contract is thrown out or remains as is. The arbtitration is not binding in that it does not prohibit the pilot group from striking if the contract is thrown out.

 

[Borescope]

Do you really think that the pilots are that serious about a strike ? Come on, we all know, as does the management of DL, that the pilots are out there like a big bunch of apes, thumping on their chests. The only problem is that the company has the 900 lb gorilla on their side. When push comes to shove the DL pilots will cave like they did at US and UA and soon NWA. All they are effectively doing right now is getting every last penny they can before the enevitable happens.

 

[luv2fly]

Do you really think that the pilots are that serious about a strike ? Come on, we all know, as does the management of DL, that the pilots are out there like a big bunch of apes, thumping on their chests. The only problem is that the company has the 900 lb gorilla on their side. When push comes to shove the DL pilots will cave like they did at US and UA and soon NWA. All they are effectively doing right now is getting every last penny they can before the enevitable happens.

We will know shortly enough. With no real negotiations going on, any deal must be copleted withing the next few weeks. Then it is on the the three man board. I believe the board will have 45 days to render a decision.
IMO, a strike will happen if the contract is thrown out and no negotiated settlement exists.

 

[B.O.B.]

Can you imagine the Delta and Northwest Pilots on strike at the same time? That would be the best thing to ever happen to these anti-union carriers.

 

[TheDog2004]

Can you imagine the Delta and Northwest Pilots on strike at the same time? That would be the best thing to ever happen to these anti-union carriers.

Only if the 'best thing' is the liquidation of both companies.

You are correct. You don't get it. As DLflyer stated, the arbitration is only to determine whether or not the contract is thrown out or remains as is. The arbtitration is not binding in that it does not prohibit the pilot group from striking if the contract is thrown out.

Hey no need for you to be a jerk. I was under the impression it was binding arbitration.