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Here we grow again!!! Just the beginning of growth and expansion in 2026 for SWA

Raises are always last in every negotiations because the things you want in the middle like work rules and benefits cost money. Even adding work comes with a cost. That cost is always more expensive than outsourcing unless the quality is just so bad it’s costing the Company more than it’s worth.

Under Section 6 of the RLA if you open the whole Contract it’s going to take time because both sides get to negotiate every article.

I agreed with, supported and even pushed for an extension because overall I think are 2020 Contracts are very good. Of course it’s the membership that ultimately decides if they really are and I was glad to see by the vote count in both Fleet and M&R that the memberships overwhelmingly agreed. 👍

They may not the next time though because we are at the top of the industry and it’s not looking good for anyone to leapfrog over us.

UAL Contract talks for both Ramp and AMT’s look stalled and Delta gave raises this year that didn’t even match our rates.

So AA and SWA Management may not make this easy for us next go round? And yes you guys do have your Elliot problem. They’re going to stall Labor cost rises. Guaranteed.
UAL, if they wise up, it would be advantages if they get to a deal that does leap from the AA mechs now, rather than waiting for the SWA mechs doing an extension or full nego's and then UAL would have to leap over us which will be even more. I predict UAL mechs will get an agreement next, we should follow, and of course that clever Delta Airlines will more than likely give another raise in front of all the airlines tossing out their raises as they usually do. I am actually hoping for an extension. There are guys still holding some hard, hard feelings towards SWA management from the 7 year fiasco and if they open up again this soon, I don't see the maint side being any where nice or patient like they were last time. As most all have said, we will not trust the co again to run out for years and years. So they will be much better prepared.
With all this said, I probably won't be around for another contract. I soon will be approaching 30 years at SWA and it may be a good timeframe to hang up my wings in Aviation. So weez, this time around I may not get so involved with it and just follow it from the outside. IF they are tossing around a major signing bonus or huge raises up front, I might stick around a little longer, but highly doubt it.
 
UAL, if they wise up, it would be advantages if they get to a deal that does leap from the AA mechs now, rather than waiting for the SWA mechs doing an extension or full nego's and then UAL would have to leap over us which will be even more. I predict UAL mechs will get an agreement next, we should follow, and of course that clever Delta Airlines will more than likely give another raise in front of all the airlines tossing out their raises as they usually do. I am actually hoping for an extension. There are guys still holding some hard, hard feelings towards SWA management from the 7 year fiasco and if they open up again this soon, I don't see the maint side being any where nice or patient like they were last time. As most all have said, we will not trust the co again to run out for years and years. So they will be much better prepared.
With all this said, I probably won't be around for another contract. I soon will be approaching 30 years at SWA and it may be a good timeframe to hang up my wings in Aviation. So weez, this time around I may not get so involved with it and just follow it from the outside. IF they are tossing around a major signing bonus or huge raises up front, I might stick around a little longer, but highly doubt it.


UAL Management (Scott Kirby) is slow walking negotiations with the Mechanics and Ramp. That’s what I’m telling you. They know well that the RLA and the Trump Administration will be more on their side than Airline Labor.

The Mechanics voted no for a deal I believe it’s been over a year ago now and the IBT after that put out updates that management was basically ignoring them.

Ramp (IAM) had no choice but to negotiate because their Contract is very far in language behind both AA (TWU IAM) and SWA (TWU) I feel sorry for them because they would really like to gain what we have but I don’t think “Job Protections” are going to take root for them? We’ll see but maybe they could get a timeframe like say 5 years plus is protected?

On a side note the Flight Attendants at UAL (AFA) F’d up voting no for their deal recently. I suspect they’ll also be sliding on ice for a long time?

Eventually someone does leapfrog but it might not be dramatically higher this time? All of us getting too greedy is what kills us. You build wealth by capturing wealth, not waiting for wealth. That 7 years cost you guys a lot of value you could have built off of if you had signed earlier. A huge retro check isn’t invested money. That same say one time $40,000 could have grown much larger being put over 7 years into your 401K or other personal investments.

I think the Country may be caught near a new inflation rate closer to 3% rather than getting down all the way to 2%. So if we can get our Companies to offer a 3% 3% 3% 4% 4% style formula we should snatch it. Money talk only.

And frankly (honestly) you guys need to capture more work. The smaller you are the easier you are to be replaced. I don’t put it past Corporate to make that move. Check out the latest News on that IAM Boeing Strike. They’re hiring permanent replacement workers.
 
UAL, if they wise up, it would be advantages if they get to a deal that does leap from the AA mechs now, rather than waiting for the SWA mechs doing an extension or full nego's and then UAL would have to leap over us which will be even more. I predict UAL mechs will get an agreement next, we should follow, and of course that clever Delta Airlines will more than likely give another raise in front of all the airlines tossing out their raises as they usually do. I am actually hoping for an extension. There are guys still holding some hard, hard feelings towards SWA management from the 7 year fiasco and if they open up again this soon, I don't see the maint side being any where nice or patient like they were last time. As most all have said, we will not trust the co again to run out for years and years. So they will be much better prepared.
With all this said, I probably won't be around for another contract. I soon will be approaching 30 years at SWA and it may be a good timeframe to hang up my wings in Aviation. So weez, this time around I may not get so involved with it and just follow it from the outside. IF they are tossing around a major signing bonus or huge raises up front, I might stick around a little longer, but highly doubt it.

This came out August 12 from the IBT for UAL. It’s their Industry reset rates.


 
This came out August 12 from the IBT for UAL. It’s their Industry reset rates.


Well good for them. This will allow them to be able to take a little more time for a better offer on their new contract. Great timing so they won't have to jump on an offer just because they might be itching for a raise. I say good for them...
 
Well good for them. This will allow them to be able to take a little more time for a better offer on their new contract. Great timing so they won't have to jump on an offer just because they might be itching for a raise. I say good for them...

I’m not sure how their accounting works but even after the adjustment on Base wages looking at TOS they still seem to be between $3 to $4 plus less than AA and SWA. Base wages.

This is something even old Tim Dunn (WorldTraveler) talks about when UAL and Kirby like to crow how much better UAL is performing against AA, SWA and even Delta. (CrankyFlier Blog)

They’re artificially keeping their Labor costs down except for their Pilots on all the rest of their employees. FA’s, Mechanics, Ramp and Customer Service.

I was glad to see Dunn commend AA for doing the right thing and shoring up all the Labor contracts. Not that unfortunately it’s driving good will with people who just seem mired down in perpetual dissatisfaction. Toxic mindsets.
 
This where "I told you so" is appropriate. I said years ago when they added the number of gates at LF to be restricted to 20 that that restriction will get removed in time. Did I not say this? I also said it would not be Southwest that would push it forward to be removed, correct?? And I also said that there would be so much growth in the North Texas areas that it would half to be lifted in order to support it all. And we have the start of all that with all the right pieces in the right places with other actions being taken by other cities and other entities. You got McKinney's new added growth and added expansion to it's airport to start international flights, you got up to a half dozen new or still coming huge biz headquarters into North Texas, you still have record population growth, jobs, and housing just exploding in North Texas, and you also have Southwest looking and eyeballing starting new flights out of DFW in 2026, as I also said would happen.
This is just the beginning folks. You will also get so many other cities and senators to support the new LF growth as it will be required to be able to keep up with all the growth in Collin County alone, not to mention all the surrounding cities and counties that will drive for miles to use. Back when I said this was all going to happen I said probably more than 10 years out, now on that it looks like I was right again as we are right at 11-12 years now. Remember all the suppose "know it all's" that said there is no way this will happen in a million years? Eat your words, suck it up, and admit I was correct more than 10 years ago people. Again, "I TOLD YOU ALL SO!!!" It's coming... Drop the mic... To be continued...
 
This where "I told you so" is appropriate. I said years ago when they added the number of gates at LF to be restricted to 20 that that restriction will get removed in time. Did I not say this? I also said it would not be Southwest that would push it forward to be removed, correct?? And I also said that there would be so much growth in the North Texas areas that it would half to be lifted in order to support it all. And we have the start of all that with all the right pieces in the right places with other actions being taken by other cities and other entities. You got McKinney's new added growth and added expansion to it's airport to start international flights, you got up to a half dozen new or still coming huge biz headquarters into North Texas, you still have record population growth, jobs, and housing just exploding in North Texas, and you also have Southwest looking and eyeballing starting new flights out of DFW in 2026, as I also said would happen.
This is just the beginning folks. You will also get so many other cities and senators to support the new LF growth as it will be required to be able to keep up with all the growth in Collin County alone, not to mention all the surrounding cities and counties that will drive for miles to use. Back when I said this was all going to happen I said probably more than 10 years out, now on that it looks like I was right again as we are right at 11-12 years now. Remember all the suppose "know it all's" that said there is no way this will happen in a million years? Eat your words, suck it up, and admit I was correct more than 10 years ago people. Again, "I TOLD YOU ALL SO!!!" It's coming... Drop the mic... To be continued...

You do realize Cranky Flier is a Blog (opinion) site and nothing has actually happened yet right?

Might want to cool your jets just a little.
 
You do realize Cranky Flier is a Blog (opinion) site and nothing has actually happened yet right?

Might want to cool your jets just a little.

To the Board of Directors of Southwest Airlines and Fellow Shareholders,

Southwest Airlines has long been admired for its culture and customer loyalty. Yet under current leadership, these strengths are eroding. The winter storm meltdown of 2022 was not merely a weather event—it was a leadership failure. While operational systems collapsed, the greater damage came from the absence of credible, decisive communication from CEO Bob Jordan.

In a crisis, leadership is measured not only by operational recovery but by the ability to preserve trust. Mr. Jordan failed on both counts. His delayed, vague, and overly reassuring statements left customers, employees, and regulators without confidence in the company’s direction. The result: reputational damage, regulatory scrutiny, and billions in lost shareholder value.

This weakness has been compounded by financial underperformance and a failure to deliver on transformation:

- 2024 Results: Despite record revenues of $27.5 billion, net income was only $465 million—flat year-over-year, with earnings per share stagnant at under $1. Shareholders saw no meaningful profitability growth despite management’s claims of “positive momentum.”
- 2025 Results: The first quarter of 2025 delivered a net loss of $149 million, even as revenues hit a record $6.4 billion. The second quarter produced only $213 million in net income, with revenue per available seat mile (RASM) down and costs per seat mile (CASM-X) up. By mid-2025, analysts were already forecasting further earnings misses.
- Transformation Failure: In September 2024, Southwest unveiled its “Southwest. Even Better.” plan, promising transformational change—assigned seating, new fare categories, and $4 billion in incremental EBIT by 2027. Yet execution has faltered. Basic economy rollout has underperformed, RASM has declined, and cost inflation has outpaced revenue growth. Instead of transformation, shareholders see incrementalism and missed opportunities.
- Broken Promises: For decades, “Bags Fly Free” was Southwest’s brand differentiator. Mr. Jordan himself defended the policy as central to customer trust. Yet in 2025, he reversed course, introducing bag fees and defending the move as “low risk” and “customer choice.” This pivot undermines credibility with both customers and shareholders: if leadership abandons the very principles that built Southwest’s brand, what else will be sacrificed?

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The Future Outlook: More Failures Ahead Without a Pivot

Independent analyses of Southwest’s trajectory point to continued financial strain if decisive action is not taken:

- Forecast Withdrawals: In 2025, Southwest pulled its financial guidance amid softening leisure demand and economic uncertainty. This signals management’s lack of confidence in its own projections—a red flag for investors.
- Margin Compression: Rising costs per seat mile (CASM-X) continue to outpace revenue growth, eroding profitability. Without structural reform, margins will shrink further in 2026 and beyond.
- Debt & Capital Pressure: With significant debt repayments due in 2025–2026, Southwest risks reduced financial flexibility. Fitch Ratings has already flagged a negative outlook tied to capital allocation and leverage.
- Transformation Risk: If assigned seating, ancillary revenue, and IT modernization continue to underperform, the promised $4 billion EBIT uplift by 2027 will not materialize. Instead, shareholders face stagnation or further losses.
- Erosion of Differentiation: By abandoning “Bags Fly Free” while failing to deliver superior reliability, Southwest risks losing its unique identity—becoming a commodity carrier without the cost advantage of ultra-low-cost rivals or the premium positioning of legacy airlines.

If the company does not pivot soon, further financial failures are inevitable: missed earnings, margin erosion, credit downgrades, and long-term brand dilution. Shareholders cannot afford another cycle of broken promises and incremental fixes.

Our Demands

We call on the Board to:
1. Strengthen Crisis Leadership: Appoint a Chief Operating & Communications Officer with proven crisis management experience.
2. Accelerate True Transformation: Deliver on promised structural reforms—assigned seating, ancillary revenue, and IT modernization—on time and with accountability.
3. Reevaluate Succession Planning: Consider whether Mr. Jordan possesses the vision and crisis credibility required to lead Southwest into its next chapter.
4. Protect Shareholder Value: Implement a credible turnaround plan that restores profitability, preserves brand trust, and prevents further erosion of competitive position.

Southwest’s brand was built on trust, reliability, and innovation. Shareholders deserve leadership that embodies those values not only in calm skies but in storms—and that can deliver a future of growth, not decline.

Respectfully,

Leaked internal memo, the mic got dropped in swamechs face.
 
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it up, and admit I was correct more than 10 years ago people. Again, "I TOLD YOU ALL SO!!!" It's coming... Drop the mic... To be continued...
When you retire and come to Delta, let me give you a taste of young c0ck, old man. Thats if they even hire your old ass. I'll give you the good ole boys probation southwest old dudes like. No union here so anything goes. They didn't say its one size fits all type of gig. So it might be a stretch.

Believe me old man, when I say everyone knows, so don't kid yourself. Lets see if them that swamech can handle them 717 up the putang.
 
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