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Here's The Man who got the Last Republican nomination for President

Is this what we can consistently count on from the party that thinks nothing of selling out our economy to a communist nation?


http://www.counterpunch.org/leupp12142005.html

You're kidding, right? I'm supposed to be convinced by a leftist rag article that is almost three years old????

Ha ha ha ha!!! Oh my, that's funny. Thanks for the laugh; it made my otherwise gloomy Monday somewhat better.
 
JS lol no kidding I wonder what the posts here will look like when they realize the Obamessiah has sold them a pig in a poke
 
The same as the folks who voted for W .... Twice :shock:

The problem is I, like many others I suspect, am voting for Obama because the alternative is far worse. Someone who would nominate Ms. Palin to be the VP lacks the judgment to run a nation. Why not Hutchenson or Dole to name two? Back in 2000, McCain was actually a good candidate. He was not afraid to buck the trend. Fast forward to 2008, he has turned out to be like all the rest. He has not seen a a trend he would not change his mind for .... Torture, Bush's taxes, Fallwell and Roberts ... and the list goes on.

I have no delusion about Obama being the champion of the US, I just feel he is better than the alternative.
 
JS lol no kidding I wonder what the posts here will look like when they realize the Obamessiah has sold them a pig in a poke
Why don't you just start the "I told you so" thread now. 🙄

How about predictions of the doom we are about to undergo if Obama wins. Go ahead and list some specific ones that we can look at later.
 
Why don't you just start the "I told you so" thread now. 🙄

How about predictions of the doom we are about to undergo if Obama wins. Go ahead and list some specific ones that we can look at later.

I am sure delldude will be happy start one ...lol

well for if you think he is going to spend all he wants to and not raise your taxes if you make less than 200 k then I have some swampland I'd like to show you
 
Let's assume for the sake of civilized debate that the above quote is 1000 percent true and correct.!


No politician or his/her political party is above shenanigans when it comes to the inconveniences that our Founding Fathers placed into the Constitution.

One such area is the use of Executive Orders and their appropriateness. Consider this:



So in the end what we have is two sides of the same coin. Ill thought out laws like the Patriot Act, FISA and numerous Executive Orders have curtailed our Civil Liberties long before Bush II was out of diapers and long before anyone heard of Monica Lewinski.

The abuse of power at the Federal Level is an equal opportunity, bi-partisan effort and anyone who draws a paycheck is the ultimate loser. The sooner everyone figures out we have a one party system the sooner we can all move forward to take our country back from the Lobbyists, Lawyers and thier ilk.

Oh..I see. "Inconveniences" like laws ? Constitutional rights? The Bill of Rights and so on?

Executive orders,now that's an interesting subject since it's accepted by many that President Kennedy intended to and tried to seperate the U.S. economy from the world bankers five weeks prior to his assassination by signing Executive Order #11110.
It should be noted that the foreign controlled Federal Reserve has been charging the U.S. interest to print currency, while the Federal government has consistently supported foreign trade bills that created a strangling trade deficit. They've been leading our country toward economic collapse
These are the policies of the Bilderberg, the World Trade Organization, the Council on Foreign Relations, the Trilateral Commission, The International Monetary Fund, The World Bank and others.
It doesn't take genius to see the pattern of destruction going on. Just open your eyes.

The Neo-cons(as they're called), are controlled by these same powers.

Read what Colin Powell had to say about the Bushites;
http://www.infowars.net/articles/december2...1205neocons.htm
 
One such area is the use of Executive Orders and their appropriateness. Consider this:

So in the end what we have is two sides of the same coin. Ill thought out laws like the Patriot Act, FISA and numerous Executive Orders have curtailed our Civil Liberties long before Bush II was out of diapers and long before anyone heard of Monica Lewinski.

The abuse of power at the Federal Level is an equal opportunity, bi-partisan effort and anyone who draws a paycheck is the ultimate loser. The sooner everyone figures out we have a one party system the sooner we can all move forward to take our country back from the Lobbyists, Lawyers and thier ilk.


Bob,

I, too, have found certain executive orders to be a bit frightening. Two years ago I had a discussion about this on these boards regarding your noted "curtailment." Today I feel the same as when i said this:

Sure, our Constitutional Rights have been abridged and limited for many decades (war and foreign scares often lend themselves as convenient excuses to limit our rights). But I believe that now, more than ever, our Rights are being limited further than warranted by the circumstances. The Patriot Act is one thing... but what I find even more horrifying are the "Executive Orders" issued by our Chief. One that concerns me the most is the Executive Order incorporated into SAM orders for lawyers.

See, Executive Orders do not need Congressional approval and, as such, often have a tendency to deprive certain citizens of Constitutional rights. President's overstep their bounds by making laws through Executive Orders, when in fact, they should only be used to clarify laws. It is important to note, that the power to use Executive Orders is not in the Constitution.

Some Executive Orders have been great: Emancipation Proclamation and Desegregation in the military and schools. But Executive Orders have often been a beast: Gov't taking control of all steel mills and placing Japanese people in ghettos. President Bush's SAM order Executive Order is such a beast.

Thus, to tie it into this thread, I place the "deference to the Constitution" as a high-priority when I consider political candidates.
 
The same as the folks who voted for W .... Twice :shock:

The problem is I, like many others I suspect, am voting for Obama because the alternative is far worse. Someone who would nominate Ms. Palin to be the VP lacks the judgment to run a nation. Why not Hutchenson or Dole to name two? Back in 2000, McCain was actually a good candidate. He was not afraid to buck the trend. Fast forward to 2008, he has turned out to be like all the rest. He has not seen a a trend he would not change his mind for .... Torture, Bush's taxes, Fallwell and Roberts ... and the list goes on.

I have no delusion about Obama being the champion of the US, I just feel he is better than the alternative.

Obama's Attack Ad On Himself
 
Check this link out. I didn't listen to it but it seems support at least part of your contention. There are several articles on Executive Orders. One particularly interesting one deals with statements made by Barack Obama regarding Freedom and Liberty and repealing executive orders that in his view "Trample Liberties"

http://www.cato-at-liberty.org/2008/07/31/...rious-mr-obama/


Now it s highly unusual for a Libertarian think tank to have anything remotely favorable towards Barack Obama or any Democrat in general

Another scholarly document provides a great deal of insight as to why we are where we are today

http://www.cato.org/pubs/journal/cj28n2/cj28n2-13.pdf

http://www.apfn.org/apfn/reserve.htm
 

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