I Created A New Name For The Merged Co.

[FLYUSAIRWAYS]

🙂

 

[etops1]

its gonna be usairways ok!!! give iti a rest already!! geez !!

 

[FLYUSAIRWAYS]

its gonna be usairways ok!!! give iti a rest already!! geez !!

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Excuse me Etops1, Just trying to have a little fun. Maybe you should try doing that sometime. I have some Xanax if you need some bud. LOL

 

[Winglet]

How about ZOMBIE AIR? Not quite dead, but then not quite alive either.

 

[Seatacus]

Skylite..............hmmmmm. Sounds like something Dave Siegel should use for his new airline diet food. :down:

 

[Phantom Fixer]

Skylite..............hmmmmm. Sounds like something Dave Siegel should use for his new airline diet food. :down:

[post="270814"][/post]​

Would that be with or without the Roaches ? 😛

 

[jimntx]

its gonna be usairways ok!!! give iti a rest already!! geez !!

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Are you absolutely, positively, ready-to-put-money-on-it sure of that? I had a layover in PHX last night. This morning the local news on the ABC affiliate had a segment on the proposed merger. According to "sources close to the negotiations", the new company will be named America West.


I don't know, and personally don't care which it is. I'm just saying that there appears to be a difference of opinion on the subject.

 

[dfw79]

Maybe it could be America West Group/Holdings and the airline subsidiary be US Airways. 😛 🙄

 

[BoeingBoy]

jimntx,

You know, the whole "We gotta have a name that describes who we are now" thing has fascinated me since the Allegheny to US Air change.

Looking thru aviation history, PanAmerican World Airways (shortened to PanAm toward the end) had what was undeniably the name recognized in more parts of the world than any other for decades. It didn't save them in the end, though their ultimate failure had nothing to do with the name.

Delta, NorthWest, and a few others have names that were meaningless in many parts of the world when they first started service there, but it didn't seem to hurt them - recent troubles aside but that has nothing to do with the name.

I've always thought that the airline makes the name, not the other way around. Run a good airline, and word will spread no matter what your name. Run a lousy airline, and the word will also spread no matter how impressive your name.

ValueJet is the only exception that I can think of where a name change (thru merger) possibly saved the airline.

Jim

 

[EyeInTheSky]

How about:

ATSB AIR

 

[FM2436]

Seriously though, how about;

Premier Airlines or Pride Air

 

[calibrator]

jimntx,


I've always thought that the airline makes the name, not the other way around. Run a good airline, and word will spread no matter what your name. Run a lousy airline, and the word will also spread no matter how impressive your name.

Jim

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Jim, You're 1000% correct in that the name matters not!


What I think is funny is how two negatives coming together will produce anything other than a lot a money for a few choice individuals who are salivating right now. Many more people’s lives will be disrupted. If one "must" work for an airline, think about the Air Force, they have better benefits and are a little more stable.

 

[usair_begins_with_u]

This one has a nice ring... 'Union Gonaways'

 

[Seatacus]

Seriously though, how about;

Premier Airlines or Pride Air

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At least the flying public would think that we have a sense of humor.

 

[jimntx]

jimntx,

You know, the whole "We gotta have a name that describes who we are now" thing has fascinated me since the Allegheny to US Air change.

Looking thru aviation history, PanAmerican World Airways (shortened to PanAm toward the end) had what was undeniably the name recognized in more parts of the world than any other for decades.  It didn't save them in the end, though their ultimate failure had nothing to do with the name.
Jim

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Waxing philosophical (we do that well, don't you know )...

When reading your post, it occurred to me that no airline name has ever achieved that pinnacle of marketing and consumer identification of becoming a generic term.
For instance, in many countries--parts of this one for that matter--coke is a generic term for soda pop/soft drink/whatever you call it. When I was growing up in the South in the 50's, your mother or your aunt might tell you, "Go get me the milk from the frigidaire (meaning the refrigerator)."

The point about Valujet is well-taken. There seems to be no problem whatsoever in the public's mind of attaching negative connotations to an airline name--positive connotations seem to be the exclusive province of WN .

Calibrator's comment about two negatives reminded me of the Senate hearings over the UAL/US proposed merger. One of the senators on the panel--and, I think it was that model of open-mindedness, Rick Santorum--said to one of the witnesses, "So, you are going to take the two most-hated airlines on the East Coast and merge them into one loved and respected airline. Exactly how is that going to work?"

I have a real problem is seeing how the HP/US deal is going to work. Not least, the issue of the unionized seniority lists. It is one thing to say, "Well, the AFA/ALPA and the AFL-CIO constitutions require strict DOH merger of the seniority lists" when you have both lists being proportionally equal--as there would be in a merger between UAL and AA or DL. It's another thing entirely when one group is predominantly senior to the other group. I don't see AW's flight attendants and pilots sitting back and watching their junior members furloughed in order to call back US furloughees. The most senior person at AW has 22 years max--AW started flying in 1983. Even the people who have been there since day 1 are going to lose seniority.

And, don't even start with me about all the senior people at US who are going to retire/quit/take the EO. Since I came back to AA in November, all I've heard on the line is the mass retirements that were going to happen any day now. For instance, a friend of mine who is based at the DFW International base (IDF), told me in December that he knew for a fact that there were going to be 200 retirements from IDF alone in just the first 3 months of 2005. Well, the truth is there have been only about 100 retirements in the first FOUR months of 2005 systemwide at AA--domestic and International. The truth is, we f/as just won't go away.