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USA320Pilot

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Additional points to consider:

1. Some observers believe that if the rank-and-file vote "No" there could be some sort of a job action, whether legal or not, and then the airline will immediately shutdown.

2. The company's proposal provides a 15-week severance package and if no airline, no 15 weeks of pay.

3. If there is a shutdown due to a job action, whether legal or not, most States will not pay unemployment benefits.

Thus, many IAM members believe that a "No" vote means no company, no 15 weeks pay, no unemployment benefits, no COBRA, no J4J, no recall rights and every IAM member losing their job and transition money.

How do you believe that would be perceived across the kitchen table as she watches her hubby vote No to "Send Them a Message!"

Do I like this? No, of course not, but the IAM contracts have been terminated and now it's time to salvage as much as possible.

Regards,

USA320Pilot
 
You know I was not going to reply to your constant diatribe of manure, but I have to.

This is an IAM member's individual choice, we don't need your constant same old posting of the samething, let the 8,000+ IAM members make their choice without you chirping in all the time. They are intelligent people and can make their own choice, for once in your life have some respect and let them decide, they gave you the same opportunity afford them the same.

We urge all pilots to contact their reps or the Comm Center for accurate updates on restructuring negotiations and the activity of other unions. We also request that all pilots refrain from promoting any management anti-union propaganda or chastise other employees in the media. There is little to be gained from such activity other than embarrassment for yourself, your fellow pilots, US Airways, and ALPA.
 
HEY 320SKYBOY....TELL ME ABOUT THE AIRBUS OUTSOURCING...TELL ME ABOUT IAM OFF THE PROPERTY...TELL ME ABOUT THE PAINFUL CLAUSE......TELL ME YOU AREN'T FULL OF IT.....
 
delldude said:
HEY 320SKYBOY....TELL ME ABOUT THE AIRBUS OUTSOURCING...TELL ME ABOUT IAM OFF THE PROPERTY...TELL ME ABOUT THE PAINFUL CLAUSE......TELL ME YOU AREN'T FULL OF IT.....
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Since the gang is piling on I might as well jump on in...HEY CAPTAIN---BITE MY ICE 😛
 
USA320Pilot said:
IAM Enhancement Letter
See letter
USA320Pilot comments: A "No" vote equals no enhancements.
Regards,
USA320Pilot
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Thanks for telling us what no means, give it a rest!

We urge all pilots to contact their reps or the Comm Center for accurate updates on restructuring negotiations and the activity of other unions. We also request that all pilots refrain from promoting any management anti-union propaganda or chastise other employees in the media. There is little to be gained from such activity other than embarrassment for yourself, your fellow pilots, US Airways, and ALPA.
 
USA320Pilot said:
IAM Enhancement Letter

See letter

USA320Pilot comments: A "No" vote equals no enhancements.

Regards,

USA320Pilot
[post="238632"][/post]​
quite right but how do you dismiss all your company induced , lame as hell predictions??
inquiring minds want to know??
we demand satisfaction sir!
 
What about maintenance being moved to an undesirable location?

And the Company not wanting to deal with the IAM?

Don't forget about those!
 
700UW:

The company had a number of options and elected "imposition", and now the IAM contract has been terminated. Would the company like its proposal ratified? Yes, but if it's not the IAM and its members lose even more.

Regards,

USA320Pilot
 
Dodge the questions.

The company won its abrogation and there is no imposition, but yet they still are dealing with the IAM.

When are you gonna learn you were wrong once again and worry about ALPA and let the IAM members deal with it themselves?
 
USA320Pilot said:
700UW:

The company had a number of options and elected "imposition", and now the IAM contract has been terminated. Would the company like its proposal ratified? Yes, but if it's not the IAM and its members lose even more.

Regards,

USA320Pilot
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once again in your truest form you ignore the obvious before all of us here ...when are you going to get a spine and defend your convictions and predictions....
you bangin' miss cleo or what???
they bounced her also for bogus predictions...lol 😉 :up: 🙄 🙂 😛 B)
 
700UW:

Right...

I told you there was going to be IAM "pain" and guess what, the only contracts abrogated where the IAM's. US Airways is simply clarifying their agreement and if the IAM does not want the enhancements, so be it. Then union members lose even more.

In regard to "imposition", the IAM begged the company to let union members vote and that was difficult for the union to obtain. However, management permitted the IAM to conduct a vote and agreed to hold off on the "imposition" for a couple of weeks.

Regards,

USA320Pilot
 
USA320Pilot said:
IAM Enhancement Letter

See letter

USA320Pilot comments: A "No" vote equals no enhancements.

Regards,

USA320Pilot
[post="238632"][/post]​
From what I have been seeing these past few days in reading these posts/other info, and my 17 years with this Company(employment ended voluntarily in Nov), A NO vote is cutting your throat!!!! People, forget about the chest-pounding......It won't mean anything except your out of a job......with NOTHING!!!! Think, and make your choice!! GOOD DAY!!!! 😀
 
USA320Pilot said:
In regard to "imposition", the IAM begged the company to let union members vote and that was difficult for the union to obtain. However, management permitted the IAM to conduct a vote and agreed to hold off on the "imposition" for a couple of weeks.
Regards,
USA320Pilot
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Your statement is a bold lie, you were not there, Jerry Glass, Doug McKeen and Al Hemenway asked Robert Roach, William O'Driscoll and Randy Canale to bring out the final offer(s).

In fact the company met with the M&R group numerous times to discuss the final offer(s) to make it better.

And if the IAM begged the company it would have given a recomendation of "YES" and it did not.

Don't let the truth get in your way!

I suggest you actually talk to people who were there and not you and more of your bogus information.

And a member of the M&R NEC talked with Lakefield and that is why you see a enhancement letter out.

I know for a fact what transpired and you are not an IAM member, representative nor a member of any of the IAM NECs.

And the company is not clarifying their offer, the offer was changed to enhance benefits for the furloughees, see if you actually read the final offer and the enhancement letter you clearly see it was improved not clarified.

Your crediblity, actually the lack of it has hit a new high today.
 
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