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and still our vaunted hero side steps all and any accusations real or imagined.....
get a set 320 and defend your convictions.....
 
USA320Pilot said:
700UW:

Right...

I told you there was going to be IAM "pain" and guess what, the only contracts abrogated where the IAM's. US Airways is simply clarifying their agreement and if the IAM does not want the enhancements, so be it. Then union members lose even more.

In regard to "imposition", the IAM begged the company to let union members vote and that was difficult for the union to obtain. However, management permitted the IAM to conduct a vote and agreed to hold off on the "imposition" for a couple of weeks.

Regards,

USA320Pilot
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Sorry to say this Delldude, and 700, But I have to go with 320 on this one!!! Regardless of how you guys "feel" about 320, if my memory serves correctly....320 has been talking about the "pain" clause for a good while now! That "pain" is finally here....the membership needs to do whats right foe all concerned!!
 
NFS,

How can you support something that is a total fabrication?
 
700UW said:
NFS,

How can you support something that is a total fabrication?
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What I am talking about 700, is what 320 has said in relation to the "painful" clause! He has been saying that for months! The reson I had always agreed with him on that PARTICULAR subject, was because it was common sense!!!! I have said all along that this is what it was going to come to!!! Almost everyone I worked with knew the outcome! It's here now.......Bantering with 320 pilot is not going to change a thing
 
NeedForSpeed said:
Sorry to say this Delldude, and 700, But I have to go with 320 on this one!!! Regardless of how you guys "feel" about 320, if my memory serves correctly....320 has been talking about the "pain" clause for a good while now! That "pain" is finally here....the membership needs to do whats right foe all concerned!!
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only thing being attacked is the continual diatribe he put out that didn't come true....
 
And if you look every worker be it an AFA, ALPA, CWA, IAM or TWU member all experienced pain.

Glad I did not lose a million dollar lump sum payment.

And we are all still eagerly awaiting the article in the IAM M&R Contract that is the "Painful" clause!
 
delldude said:
only thing being attacked is the continual diatribe he put out that didn't come true....
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ok, fair enough.....and I agree, but for the record, i'm talking about ONE SPECIFIC subject....The "pain" clause he has referred to for MONTHS!!!!! capice?? 😀
 
700UW said:
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And we are all still eagerly awaiting the article in the IAM M&R Contract that is the "Painful" clause!
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700, surely you don't truly believe that when 320 talks about a "painful"..."clause"..he literally means a written instrument by the company to screw the membership???? I would hope not!!!!
 
NFS,

Go back and read his past postings, he actually referred to it as the "Painful Clause".
 
NeedForSpeed said:
ok, fair enough.....and I agree, but for the record, i'm talking about ONE SPECIFIC subject....The "pain" clause he has referred to for MONTHS!!!!! capice?? 😀
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well if thats what you infer...i do have hemorrhoids............. :angry:
 
700UW said:
NFS,

Go back and read his past postings, he actually referred to it as the "Painful Clause".
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700, I realise he referred to it as a "clause".....But I always assumed he was doing a play on words.....not an ACTUAL clause written into the contract!!!! C-mon, dude!!!! Hate him all you want, but don't fall into his wording trap, hook-line, and sinker!!!!
 
All I gotta say, and to all the many whom make this board the most active on USAviation.com ( USA320PILOT / CLUE BY FOUR / PITTBULL / 700UW / DELLDUDE / USAIRWAYSVOTENO / BOEINGBOT / THE LARKS ASCENDING / USFLIBOI ) Now that almost all the dust has settled, who looks like Mr. Labor Friendly now ? Do you think we should have given Dave a little more time ? Do you think we may have been better off with or without him ?
 
LGA / 037 said:
? Do you think we should have given Dave a little more time ? Do you think we may have been better off with or without him ?

Just happen to have an old issue of ATW in front of me and on the cover is the story of USAir coming out of chap 11...the first time. I love some of the quotes in the article made by Siegel and how USAir was turning around.. Well that is history!! I think it has been proven that his so called business plan was a failure!!! makes you feel sorry for the poor guy getting booted over a flawed business plan!!! Hope that 11 Mil he took for failing helps the pain a little!!!

So to answer the question...No
 
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