if we all went hand pay in local 591....

[dfw gen]

Would they have to create a special treasury position? With a brinks truck?

 

[AA-MRO.COM]

pay them in loose change let little count it and wrap it

 

[AMFAinMIAMI]

What is going to be the requirement for us when they do shut down the line station locals, are we going to be required to sign a dues checkoff card so that AA will be authorized to deduct $$$$ from our pay checks and send it to the new local?

When you tranfer from ststion to station they ask you too, so what will happen then? If you did not sign it?

At the current time you must get a signed letter from your locals offcers send it to Payroll to go to hand pay.

If you want to go to agency staus you must file that this month (JAN) ......

 

[Bob Owens]

What is going to be the requirement for us when they do shut down the line station locals, are we going to be required to sign a dues checkoff card so that AA will be authorized to deduct $$$$ from our pay checks and send it to the new local?

When you tranfer from ststion to station they ask you too, so what will happen then?

The reason why you are asked to sign another card at the new local is to make sure that your dues arent sent to your old local.

 

[AMFAinMIAMI]

The reason why you are asked to sign another card at the new local is to make sure that your dues arent sent to your old local.

Bob

Are we going to be required to sign another card or is the Intl. and AA hr payroll dept going to automaticly
fwd the payments to the NEW Loacal 591?

As they shut down the old locals will the current treasures keep Money for one month until new treasurer of Local 591 has new books in place?

Is the new Local going to pay last months of operational bill of the closing Locals?

The bldg's that are leased is the Intl or the new Local going to be responsible for remainder of broken lease payments or are they expecting US the line mechanics to pay for something they decided to do?

 

[Bob Owens]

Bob

Are we going to be required to sign another card or is the Intl. and AA hr payroll dept going to automaticly
fwd the payments to the NEW Local 591?

As they shut down the old locals will the current treasures keep Money for one month until new treasurer of Local 591 has new books in place?

Is the new Local going to pay last months of operational bill of the closing Locals?

The bldg's that are leased is the Intl or the new Local going to be responsible for remainder of broken lease payments or are they expecting US the line mechanics to pay for something they decided to do?

Since I, nor any of the other Presidents or any of the members had any part in this move to liquidate our locals I cant say for sure but I can say another International Myth ("Locals are autonomous") bites the dust.

You can put that on a shelf next to "The TWU is a Democratic Union"

"We will fight like hell"

"The membership is the supreme authority"

and

"We will get em next time".

That said I would imagine that they will fwd the dues and nothing would need to be done, similar to how when they made 561-through 565 everything was transferred over. It will be up to the Treasurer to check the dues check off reports to make sure.

According to the info they put out all the assetts (and liabilities) of the exterminated locals go to the new local.

 

[Crapdog]

pay them in loose change let little count it and wrap it

Paym in peanuts.....r u nuts?

 

[Tex-Mech]

Bob,

Why do we have to pay our local when we are on hand pay, because the contract is between the international and aa, not the local. So shouldn't the hand dues be paid to the international, and they pay the local there portion of it?

Also, under 591, I plan on being on hand pay, and the local is in Dallas, so how do I pay if I am in Miami and want to pay my Miami union guys.

 

[Bob Owens]

Bob,

Why do we have to pay our local when we are on hand pay, because the contract is between the international and aa, not the local. So shouldn't the hand dues be paid to the international, and they pay the local there portion of it?

Also, under 591, I plan on being on hand pay, and the local is in Dallas, so how do I pay if I am in Miami and want to pay my Miami union guys.

Well I can tell you what the past practice has been but I dont recall what or where it is written. It would be no different than today as far as sending in Hand Pay. The fact that the Local would be in DFW does not matter. Local 562 has members in SJU, if they were on hand pay they would either submit those dues to a Union rep in SJU or mail them to the hall in NY.

 

[simco aircraft]

As one of the the hand payers at DFW, my dues check off was authorized by some one (insert suspicious characters) to pay automatically in the first of the year. No, I did not sign anything,was not informed of this change but there it is on my paystub. Amazing what the (POS) union can do. To the people who know me " I didn't want to go on the cart" so I am hanging around a little longer.Thanks for the kind words and prayers.

 

[comatose]

As one of the the hand payers at DFW, my dues check off was authorized by some one (insert suspicious characters) to pay automatically in the first of the year. No, I did not sign anything,was not informed of this change but there it is on my paystub. Amazing what the (POS) union can do. To the people who know me " I didn't want to go on the cart" so I am hanging around a little longer.Thanks for the kind words and prayers.

No more chicken Aholes for you.

 

[simco aircraft]

Oh my chest hurts from laughing too hard, Thanks friend!!!!!

 

[LAX AMT]

Would they have to create a special treasury position? With a brinks truck?

A really stupid idea to go hand pay. We had a guy here at LAX go hand pay a few years ago. He talked tough and laughed about it, until he forgot to pay his dues for however long the limit is and he was walked out the door. Next thing you he's crying like a little #### trying to get back in the door. He was out for a few weeks but eventually got his job back. If you ask him today he'd admit what a stupid idea it was. As much as I despise both this company and the TWU cutting off my hand to spite my arm doesn't make much sense.

 

[1AA]

If you go hand pay and are financially responsible there should be no issues with being in the rears. I believe it is greater than 3 months. 2x your base pay per month. How hard can it be to figure it out.

 

[Boomer]

Bob,

Why do we have to pay our local when we are on hand pay, because the contract is between the international and aa, not the local. So shouldn't the hand dues be paid to the international, and they pay the local there portion of it?

Also, under 591, I plan on being on hand pay, and the local is in Dallas, so how do I pay if I am in Miami and want to pay my Miami union guys.

Bob,

As far as I know, the International is still being remitted all of the dues from each and every TWU Member in violation of the TWU Constitution posted here, LINK PROVIDED: http://www.twu.org/Portals/0/PDFs/constitution_2009.pdf , at Article XVII, at the beginning of page 55 continuing to page 56. [font="TimesNewRomanPS""]S[/font][font="TimesNewRomanPS""]ECTION [/font][font="TimesNewRomanPS""]3. Effective January 1, 1982, the per capita, PG. 55 continuing to PG. 56.[/font]

Per the TWU Constitution, the local dues are to be first remitted to the chartered local unions and then the per capita rendered to the TWU International.

While the IAC does control the individual or geographic control of the Locals' they charter, they do not control the flow of dues monies from the individual union member to the International.

Perhaps your Leadership at Local 591 could exert legal interruption of the flow of dues monies from that local to the TWU International by simply asserting that the TWU International is subverting their own constitution.




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