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Based on the number of quotes I’ve seen about Northwest’s impending operational apocalypse, I’m beginning to think AMFA’s leadership believes that if it says something enough times, it will somehow become true. Here are some great examples.

AMFA spokesman Steve Conway to the Associated Press on 9/20/05: “The airline is really having trouble operating. From what we know, Northwest is really struggling."

Steve MacFarlane in the 9/13/05 Minneapolis Star Tribune: “The only reason Northwest would be asking us to come back is because the scabs are not able to sustain the operation."

O.V. Delle-Femine in the 9/13/05 Minneapolis Star Tribune: “I think Northwest is teetering…It won't be long and they will be crying for help. I think it is going fabulously."

And my personal favorite; Bob Rose’ prediction that NWA’s entire DC-9 fleet would be grounded by the end of August.

I’m not sure what planet these people inhabit, but it’s obviously not the same one as the rest of us. Maybe they could try a new line, something like “Well, whaddya know? Northwest really can operate without us!â€￾
 
Why is it that every time Scamfa leadership gets some press they come off sounding like buffoons?

http://wcco.com/topstories/local_story_265110646.html

McFarland "..."Mike now has to live with the fact that his co-workers will forever view him as a scab..."

Like he really cares!

This one's pretty good too...I think the SCAB engaged in conversation was the beer drinker 😱 Oddly it shows up in AMFA's strike update Day 33 & 34....this is all the good news they have to offer.

http://www.amfa33.org/strike/conversation_with_a_scab.htm
 
I wouldn't be so smug. Northwest is operating, but not operating well, even by your own admission(s). Ponder if you will the real effect, sans NWA PR spin and schedule gerrymandering.

Your rock-solid support for NWA management seems curious in light of your views from late 9/10/05:

NWAMSP:

http://www.kare11.com/news/news_article.aspx?storyid=106879

Princess,

Something we can agree on finally. That's why I haven't flown them since the strike. I've been flying AA. With all the double triple bonus miles I'll easily make gold and perhaps platinum by the end of the year.

No matter what one's thoughts on unions or strikes are. NW is definately unsafe. Wonder what Mark Dayton is thinking now?
 
High Iron, What date did he make that post? I bet it was at the beginning of the strike when people actually listened to what AMFA had to say. It is a different story now. AMFA has proven to be nothing more than babbling fools.
 
Mike Hurley;

"I had to follow the courage of my convictions and not a culture of contradictions, namely the AMFA," Hurley said.

How did this SCAB even become a Union Leader?

😛 BigE
 
Their house of cards is about to collapse. You'd have to be desperate or a fool or a desperate fool to fly NWA over other airlines. It's getting harder and harder to hide the truth from the flying public. NWA is playing a dangerous game with the flying public I just hope someone doesn't get hurt.
 
proAMFA, why do you insist upon throwing out blatant lies. Are these facts that you have discovered yourself or are these posts the result of your weekly hypnotic sessions with AMFA?
 
PlayTheOdds said:
proAMFA, why do you insist upon throwing out blatant lies. Are these facts that you have discovered yourself or are these posts the result of your weekly hypnotic sessions with AMFA?
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And what facts have you posted here PTO? All you seem to be able to post is what the company tells you but you have no real proof any of it is true. We've already established your a coward and now you expect us to believe the words of a low life scum SCAB? Isnt it time you go back to work and drink some more kool-aid?
 
chas you can place me back on your ignore list anytime. Every fact I have posted here has been followed up by news reports with in a week of posting.

I'm not much on kool-aid, I'm more of a Red Bull kinda guy.
 
Flying around with pins in the gear, skydrol in engine oil, landing gear serviced improperly, engines shuting down in flight, airline maintenance tech's swilling beer on their way to work, maintenance tech's working on aircraft without even cracking open the maintenance manual, are these not items the flying public should be concerned over?

What about FAA inspectors expressing alarm over their higher ups not reporting their maintenance discrepancy reports on FAA computer data bases? Extensions on the repair of MEL items?

These are all thing I've picked up just reading press releases. It scares me to think about all the things that are being successfully covered up in order to keep the flying public in the dark about the safety of the aircraft they are flying on.

Your part of the problem PTO. Can you live with yourself when something tragic occurs?
 
FAA safety inspectors have and continue to observe employee and vendor employee errors in the accomplishment of aircraft maintenance, inspection and servicing tasks. Observations such as:

a) A Northwest employed line maintenance manager not able to comply with an Airbus A320 engine run checklist. He was not able to locate required switches on the aircraft instrument panel. In questioning the manager, it was learned he had never performed an engine run on a live A320 aircraft. He had only recently been trained in a simulator. This reporting inspector suggested he get help and this suggestion was initially ignored. After a few more minutes of struggling, the manager did call for help. The engine was started, however, the initial manager forgot to turn on the number 2 engine fuel pump switches. A fault was on the panel.

B) Observed a vendor, Globe Services, complete lavatory servicing on a Northwest Boeing B757-300, an ETOPS qualified aircraft. The lavatory servicing panel had a Northwest bright orange deferral sticker on it. This indicates the lavatory is inoperative and should not be serviced. The vendor had just completed servicing both lavatories. This reporting inspector questioned the two servicing individuals and their supervisor and neither of the three knew the meaning of the orange color deferral sticker. It was also learned that this was the second day either of these two persons had been on an airport and serviced aircraft lavatories. Their training was done by the vendor and consisted of a video supplied by Northwest Airlines. Protective face masks were not used during the servicing operation. Northwest maintenance and ground servicing management persons were called. The maintenance manager was not sure what to do and it was suggested to him that the lavatory needed to be drained and if there was a leak, then a leak check was necessary. He was informed to check the Northwest procedure for an inoperative lavatory. The must ensure no fluid leaked into the structure of the aircraft. Northwest ground service management informed they would have their management people do training today. They had been called.

Later that day, this inspector observed Northwest management observing lavatory servicing on a DC9 aircraft. The vendor supervisor that was involved earlier was servicing the lavatory. He had no gloves or face mask on, as required by Northwest procedure for handling hazardous human body fluids. The Northwest manager was standing there watching this. This FAA inspector pointed out to the Northwest manager that masks and gloves were not being used. The manager questioned if that was necessary. I informed it was their procedure.

c) Northwest DC10 aircraft arrival from Amsterdam to Minneapolis. Aircraft arrived into Minneapolis with a broken lavatory waste duct which allowed human waste to spill into the aircraft's electrical equipment bay. This bay contains the aircraft flight and navigational appliances and waste contaminates were observed spilled out on these components. When FAA questioned the Northwest maintenance manager about clean up, he was told that it came in this way from Amsterdam with no pilot write-ups so there was no reason it could not depart this way to Honolulu. FAA stepped in and ensured aircraft was cleaned and checked out before a next flight.

d) Northwest Airlines DC10 aircraft in hangar maintenance for fuel quantity discrepancy. Right hand wing fuel tank was opened for repairs. Tank was closed up without having a Northwest required inspection for an "OK to Close" prior to closing up the tank. No Northwest employee or vendor employee assured this inspection was done before the tank was closed up. After completion and while management reviewed the work documents, it was discovered that the "OK to Close" had not been performed. The aircraft was re-opened for the inspection.

e) On a Northwest Boeing B757, the vendor mechanic performing maintenance to the aircraft was not able to close the passenger entry door. He made attempts, but he could not close it. He was unsure how to close it. Fiddled around with it but did not ask for any help. These doors also have "arm" positions for slides when they are closed. A Northwest manager closed the door. When questioning the vendor mechanic, this inspector was told that he had only been a mechanic on a structures crew. He had never worked line maintenance. He has had no line maintenance experience in the past 2 years.

f) This FAA inspector spoke to the towbarless aircraft tug driver. In fact, the driver approached him to talk. The driver shared that he was on a 12 hour day and had only received about a 10 minute break. He has been moving airplanes around all day and was very tired. He was a Northwest Airlines' employee................................


h) Another observation of Northwest line maintenance management distracted in repairing aircraft while trying to oversee vendor maintenance. Northwest A320 aircraft with a engine bleed discrepancy. Engine cowl was open and two vendor mechanics were looking at bleed valves. When they were questioned what they were contemplating for the repair, neither of them knew. They both said they had never worked on A320 aircraft. They started looking at this engine for some time both wondering where the manager had gone. I found the manager on the flight deck working on a pitot heat problem. He was having trouble running the on board maintenance test. So again, we have a maintenance manager distracted in a repair for another discrepancy. Upon review of the aircraft logbook, the engine bleed discrepancy had been written up five times in the past two weeks. It is a no go item...........................

j) Spoke to a number of vendor mechanics performing turn around checks on Northwest aircraft. One observed doing landing gear, brakes and wheels was questioned as to what he was looking at? He mentioned brakes and wear pins. When asked if these were checked with brakes on or off, he did not know. The brakes were not on when he was accomplishing his inspection. They must be set to properly check brake wear pins. Spoke to five vendor mechanics doing Airbus turn around checks. None of the five were aware of the wing fuel tank over pressure release indicators. They were not aware of the system they are in or what the white "X" meant."



As I said before NWA is playing a dangerous game. I pray nobody gets hurt.
 
proAMFA, Everyone of those items you listed happens every day at every airline. To me there is no excuse to leave an oil cap off but your union boys did it hundreds of times. To me there is no excuse to deploy a slide yet your union boys have done it thousands of times. Get a grip on reality.
 
You, SCAB, need to get a grip on reality,

I'm not denying bad things happen everyday but all the things that have occurred in the span of less than 30 days at NWA cannot and should not be considered normal.

There is an obvious cover up going on and the public should know about it period. My point of view is the public should not find out about these "short cuts" after a body count.

Why is it that the public knew nothing about the Airbus nose wheel steering problems, that had occurred 6 times before, until something had to occur the seventh time? Someone could have been hurt.

Your position is to cover up safety concerns, a good A&P's concern should be to bring legitamite safety concerns to the surface. They have an obligation to the flying public to have their safety concerns addressed. You and NWA want to say, "Situation normal, everything is OK". Your wrong. NWA and You SCAB are playing a dangerous game.

Right now you have as much credibility as Baghdad Bob.

Have a little bit of pride in yourself and walk away before the dominoes begin to fall. You don't want to be around when the public finds out what is really happening behind the scenes.
 
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