My, my...you aren't going to live a very long life with that kind of anger pent up. Perhaps your hatred of all non-whitebread folks is not such a good thing.
As far as your rhetoricals go...they were just that...spun rhetoricals with no merit. I didn't realize I was supposed to respond to elementary school tactics. Your questions aren't even based on truth so what is the point? You are close minded and get way too frustrated and angry at anyone that doesn't think exactly like you.
You questions?! I answered your first one about "accepting at face value". Hell yes I accept at face value the articles that I post that are FACT. What I posted was based on real history and was not just an amateur website designed to spew hate that only has untraceable claims of who is behind it. My article was based on fact and easily verifiable. Your website was not. Sure...it may be true...but it also may not be. No real way to know. The fact that you can so eagerly throw discretion to the wind and subscribe to something unverifiable says alot. I like things that you can verify with fact. I don't blindly jump on whatever train just b/c it is painted in the tint that I prefer.
Other "questions"? "spreading islam by the sword" is actually a quote from a medival islamic king that forced that issue...not any Islamic prophet. Some day we may look back at our "king" and see that he is spreading Christianity with the sword. Just b/c that is our team, does that make it right? And Israel spreads Judaism with the sword. Problem is...you have the most faithful of several major religions living in one small region...hotbed of "spreading by the sword". Perhaps if you understood where quotes came from rather than just attaching them to an entire race of people you would come across much better but you are too quick to try to make a meaning out of something that you don't understand that you ignore the truths.
What else? Leaving evil unchecked? Nope...I never said that. But Iraq had NOTHING....NOTHING to do with 9/11. Afghanistan...well yeah...they were ruled by a group closely aligned with Bin Laden. Iraq? Nope. Saddam tried to arrest Bin Laden. So how is inflicting martial law on a country supposed to help? All that the citizens there see is our tanks rolling through the streets and our armies interrogating and fighting their people. So now a group that was NOT aligned with Bin Laden (of course there are some radicals...but we have those in the US, too) that is growing more and more distant from the U.S. We are breeding terrorism right into Iraq. I'll give credit to your buddy the Gipper for how Libya was handled. We did not have to take over a country nor did we have to do a regime change but Gadhafi sure has no world influence these days, does he? We aren't patrolling Libya and we aren't stirring the pot with rhetoric. We aren't labelling the entire country a state of terrorists therefore not further alienating future generations of Libyans. I hate to say it but Iraq is growing to hate us more and more. Whatever "joys" they gained from liberation are 5 years removed and they now see a long-term occupation and intrusion into their culture and their lives. If Saudi Arabia were occupying the U.S. since the beginning or 2002, I think I would become pretty extreme and I would teach my children to hate the oppresors as well. Sure, from our side we can say that the Iraqis should be thankful, etc, but you have to be pretty numb to human nature to believe that our extended presence with NO PLAN to change that is actually going to end well.
Finally...your question from another thread about my "plan" in Iraq? You stated in your question that you had told me your plan but really...you never did. Just what is it? "Stay the course?" That's not a plan...that is cowardice to try to figure out something that will work and benefit the world. I will give you this much...it isn't easy to come up with a plan b/c it isn't a simple, dumbed-down issue like our prez has tried to make it sound. It is complex. My thoughts? If I had a plan, I would be rich...people have been trying to figure out for thousands of years how to stabalize the region. Intelligent people can see that there is no "off" switch. You, delldude, and 700 sit here throwing out scripture and devoting every word to God. Think of how strongly you feel towards God and than think of many groups in one region that have the same devotion. Strong enough devotion to HATE those of other faiths (ala you three) and strong enough to do something about it. The ME is a powderkeg that cannot be easily calmed. "My" plan for Iraq? First…apologize to the world for our mistakes, miscalculations, underestimations, and false assumptions. Apologize for “going it alone†and not seeking a worldwide solution to Iraq. Then tell the world to shut up b/c we have some issues to correct. A little humility will go along way. And sure we have to stay in Iraq for now. But we have to have some rules. Right now our only rule is that we are there until a sufficient army is trained (say...weren't we supposed to start withdrawal when the new gov't was elected?!) We need better rules. First off...the puppet gov't is 1/3 made up of known terrorist sects. DEMAND that these groups are not given power. These are appointed posts...not elected ones. Demand that if we are to continue serving as security for the country that they align their gov't to be conducive to a decent ending. Once that is done, DEMAND from neighboring countries...even Iran and Syria...that they take a more active role in policing arms/personnel flows into Iraq. I guarantee you that Iran is not desiring another drawn out war with Iraq as the last one crippled their country for two decades. And DEMAND that Iraq take an honest approach to training and building their forces. Let the residents of Iraq see their own people patrolling their villages rather than Americans. Let them feel like THEY own their security and their future…not Americans. Let them grow a respect for their own people rather than a hatred towards Americans. And let the rest of the Middle East see that we do, indeed, want a stable and INDEPENDENT Iraq as we had pledged long ago.
We have strayed from our plan b/c we never really had one beyond removing Saddam (again…somebody that had nothing to do with 9/11…you know, the attack on the US that you keep mentioning will happen again were it not for us invading Iraq…which again…WAS NOT THE STATED REASON FOR THE WAR THERE). You keep weaving history to fit the current situation rather than admitting to mistakes and trying to correct them. My “plan†was not difficult to create and is not guaranteed but it is a lot better than staying a course that is not plotted.
