"The founding fathers still believed in the Judeo-Christian values, regardless if the believed in Jesus Christ or not."
Finally, beginning to see the light.
Now chew on this bit of history, maybe even go check it out, try and disprove it.
Those Judeo Christian values you speak of were actually quite common among civilizations around the world. In the western world, the source of much of the legal code, ideas of justice, etc., was the Romans, pre JC, and the Greeks. Those heathens of many, many Gods. Gods stacked on top of gods.
Thanks to the wisdom, open mindedness and liberal thinking of Alexander the Great, those sources of our western, eventually Anglo-Saxon (judeo christian to you...) values were heavily influenced by the eastern civilizations. The Arabs. Pre Prophet version.
Yup... The Arabian people are the source of a whole damn lot of what you believe.
Nope, they were not all a bunch of ignorant desert rats. They truly were a very advanced culture, learned and pioneers in math, science, agriculture, etc. Alexander the Great recognized this and brought much of it home. Their culture influenced the Greeks, which influenced the Romans, which is really where western version of the "judeo christian" values you cite come from.
The Eastern version was a little different, but largely the same. Ish...
Short version.
Incidentally, you can also thank the Arabs, post prophet this time, for preserving the knowledge and wisdom of the ages during the dark ages, when the Roman Catholic church (all the Christians there were in the western world...) was doing everything it could to eliminate any hint of science or higher learning that didn't suit it's purposes. The Muslims also kindly deposited this knowledge in libraries in Seville and other places in the Iberian peninsula, before their conquest ran out of steam there. The English and French found these libraries at the beginning of the Renaissance, and of course promptly carted all the best stuff homemwith them.
Short version, again.
So, you see, the point is, all this hooey you have been fed about the natural supremacy of the judeo christian tradition (that is a contradiction in itself anyway...) is a bunch of... Hooey.
Especially the part about this country being founded as a "Christian Nation". It was obviously, and by design, founded to be a republic of individual liberties. It says so right on it. In the Constitution.
"We the People of the United States, in Order to form a more perfect Union, establish Justice, insure domestic Tranquility, provide for the common defence, promote the general Welfare, and secure the Blessings of Liberty to ourselves and our Posterity, do ordain and establish this Constitution for the United States of America."
Notice the "secure the blessings of liberty" part.
Notice also the lack of any rederence to any god, God, Christ, Yahweh, creed, faith, spirituality, belief, etc.
The ideas of individual rights and liberties expressed in the Declaration of Independence and the Bill of Rights grew outof The Enlightenment and were a forceful repudiation of the old, traditional, conservative, western Christian values, as they pertained to government.
I have stipulated consistently that obviously the majority of the colonists did come from, grow up in, and live in a predominately, if nominally, western christian English society. Still, much of what they did in the new world was a rejection of the Evangelical, Church of England, Establishment, Christianity of the day.
Enjoy!
