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The talk during svt this week was for a big increase in block hours after the f/a issue is resolved. Also, unfortunately the company does have a solid replacement plan for the f/a's if they fail to reach an agreement. Welcome to the new nwa.
 
whaledriver said:
The talk during svt this week was for a big increase in block hours after the f/a issue is resolved. Also, unfortunately the company does have a solid replacement plan for the f/a's if they fail to reach an agreement. Welcome to the new nwa.
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Who said? Julie Hagen Showers? I heard two stories. No they don't have and yes they do.
 
but when adn where the F/As strike, which is CHAOS, will be very difficult to get the new scabs to that city if the F/As do say 5 strikes at different places. and that is only if SCABBY PATCH AIR has scabs
 
Don Smith said:
The longer the F/A group delays action (almost a month now) the more prepared nwa will be. :down:
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Oh that's right! That was in some past discussion I was reading. :mellow: I'm skeptic. 😉 I don't go jumping into the giddy happy AFA, Pfaa, IBT movement without really thinking about the reasons "why" and I always ask questions at those informational meetings. I've been burned by a union before and basicly my dues are paying them for THEIR service. If I aint satisfied I will ask for my dues back.



Well seems like if they have to go to court they are whining about how they don't have any way of keep the planes flying, ect. without those flight attendants.

Before all this they were running around saying how they have "solid" replacement plans. Then you hear rumors they DO. Then they don't. Then they DO. Then they DONT.


Just a great game of logic and strategy. I wonder what is going to be blurted out next.

This kind of reminds me of my last divorce. Just drags on and on and on and on and on and on and on.

BTW- I read that Pan Am is finally out of bankruptcy as of August 16. I wonder how long this will drag on.
 
Don Smith said:
The longer the F/A group delays action (almost a month now) the more prepared nwa will be. :down:
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Just a quick question:

If indeed NWA was making some sort of preparations for a pending F/A job action, wouldn't the expenditures be listed in their required reports to the bankruptcy courts?

Also, if the F/As are on the creditors committee wouldn't they have unrestricted access/rights to these reports?
 
ThirdSeatHero said:
Just a quick question:

If indeed NWA was making some sort of preparations for a pending F/A job action, wouldn't the expenditures be listed in their required reports to the bankruptcy courts?

Also, if the F/As are on the creditors committee wouldn't they have unrestricted access/rights to these reports?
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As someone who provided computer support for accountants for many years, let me say that there is more than one way to "legally" hide expenses you don't want known.

As far as the creditors committee...I might be wrong, but IIRC there is no requirement that each union have a seat--just that the employees have a representative on the committee. This rep may or may not be a union member.

And, to the question of how does the company get scab f/as to various locations if the CHAOS plan for the day is "odd-numbered, eastbound flights from non-hub stations," if CHAOS does begin, it is possible that the company might "lock-out" all the current AFA members and then staff only "critical" flights with scabs. After all, TWA did it when their f/as struck. The company didn't win in the long run, but the f/as were out on strike for something like 3 years--and TWA kept flying during that period. Moreover, TWA did not have the protection of the BK courts to keep creditors at bay during that period. Just food for thought...
 
Okay, I have no doubt in the near super-natural ability of accountants to make numbers dance, but once the FAs went out and NWA reveals its plan, couldn't then someone(anyone) say "hey, good job, but where is it on your expense reports?"

NWA would be the text book definition of "flat-busted"


As for a lock out, which NWA would most certainly have a right to, I doubt they would consider it. If they were forced to reduce their schedule because of an FA lockout, they would also be forced to layoff hundreds prehaps thousands more of other employees, plunging them deeper into labor chaos. Not to mention the public image(or lack thereof) of a carrier with 2 unions on strike, wouldn't fill lending institutions with a great deal of confidence.


I guess the real question now is, will AFA actually pull the trigger?
 
jimntx,

Did you say "lock-out"? No,no, that won't work. NWA would have to pay unemployment and we all know they don't/won't allow that.
 
The company has said in numerous media reports that they are ready with a "contingency plan" if the F/A group strikes. So if they are prepared now after a month of fruitless negotiations and were not prepared when the talk of a strike first started 2 months ago then someone has been putting resources into the plan. Maybe they didn't allocate a big budget amount for it like they did for the AMFA strike but they can certainly move around the beancounters and get them working on the plan without it showing up on the books. Remember, we're talking about the nwa management team here. In my estimation, EVIL to the core.
 
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