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Not really K.C. Trump went to court with a fist full of affidavits claiming irregularities witnessed by pol workers, and others. But he couldn't find a judge with balls enough to even look at them. Do the Democrats really have an affidavit? Is that what you are saying? Is there some poor little girl somewhere out there claiming Trump raped her? Why hasn't she come forward by now? .........And, using your logic, Trump found hundreds of people willing to sign a document that "if" proven false knew they would go to jail? This whole line about Trump raping someone is total B.S. nothing more!........ In the meantime, the Arizona audit continues!
Once again...I can wave a fistful of affidavits in front of you that says Trump raped women. They. Mean. Nothng. Just like the fistful off affidavits Trump was waving around meant nothing. The affidavits have to be proven. That's the part you are not getting....you can get someone to sign an affidavit that was "witnessed" by others (who didn't sign an affidavit). The "witness" wouldn't to jail because they didn't sign an affidavit. But there burden was on Trump to PROVE the affidavits....not wave them around.

And the Arizona audit will find nothing.
 
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K.C. you are showing your ignorance again! An affidavit is a legal document. The consequences of falsifying one is jail time! It's called "perjury"!!! ......... But, we have to give you a pass on that one, because liberals really don't believe in that word "consequences" for one's actions now
do they?


"You're showing (UR) IGNORANCE again " !

Brother. You have NO F/Idea how correct Y O U...ARE !

In UR case, " If the SHOE-FITS, WEAR-IT " !!
 

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There is no "what if."

Trump went 0-for-everything in court.

The reality is that the GOP isn't interested in "election integrity." These silly exercises and performative outrage are all cover to facilitate voter suppression nationwide.

They could at least be intellectually honest about it...
That is misleading. Why have several judges now ruled the changes to election law by dem lawyer lawsuits do have merit and were unconstitutional changes?

Further, these unconstitutional changes, which never let a crisis go to waste, have been now been crafted as legislation for a federal take over of state election procedures?
 

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But....there were AFFIDAVITS. Using your definition, they are true. OR if these haven't been proven, then.....neither have the affidavits claiming fraud. See where I'm going with this?
Affidavits that were never afforded an opportunity for a evidentiary hearing. Odd, I thought it was up to a jury to decide evidence, not a judge.
 

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Affidavits that were never afforded an opportunity for a evidentiary hearing. Odd, I thought it was up to a jury to decide evidence, not a judge.
If the affidavit was stronger than "I seen somebody" they might have gotten a hearing. But what they said was "I seen somebody rolling a cooler into the counting room". And technically they may have been right...there may well have been someone rolling a cooler into the counting room.... a cooler filled with delicious and refreshing Coca Cola products for the staff. Now...if the affidavit said "I seen someone rolling a cooler into the room and I have phone video of them pulling ballots out of them", it might have more traction.

And FWIW...the pros from Dover who are conducting the Arizona "audit" were using blue and black pens...which can modify a ballot. They were supposed to only use green or red. So right from day one, the integrity of the recount is in question.
 

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Courts who ruled against 2020 election results in AZ, PA, GA, and WI did so on procedural grounds, not evidence, so be careful how you frame that "zero victories" claim, Kev.

Back to the original question... if the Maricopa audit does uncover fraud, could the AZ Secretary of State (a Democrat) de-certify the election results?

Unlikely. She's a Democrat hoping to run for governor.

It's not clear on if any of the State or local elections could be reversed, but the Federal election results are untouchable.

It's possible that if there's enough data to prove Mark Kelly didn't actually win the Senate seat, he could be pressured to resign. He's planning to run for the full term in 2022, and the optics of occupying a seat that he didn't win honestly would probably kill off any hopes for his 2022 campaign. That would allow Gov. Doug Ducey to re-appoint a GOP aligned placeholder to that seat until the 2022 election takes place.
 

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Back to the original question... if the Maricopa audit does uncover fraud, could the AZ Secretary of State (a Democrat) de-certify the election results?
If the farce being conducted in Arizona that is being called an "audi" should "uncover fraud", the first thing that will happen is that the veracity of the findings will be questioned by the Arizona Democrats. In the first days of the audit, when the pros from Dover's at Cyber Ninja's undertook this effort, they were giving workers blue and black pens. Which can modify ballots. And to pretty much undetected. So that fact alone is stronger than any facts that Trump or his supporters had of any fraud back in November. HIre a group headed by a man who believes Trump won, let them slip blue and black pens into the "audit" and there's nothing that could ever go wrong there. If the auditors don't know enough about what they are auditing, then anything they "uncover" will be questionable.
 

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If the farce being conducted in Arizona that is being called an "audi" should "uncover fraud", the first thing that will happen is that the veracity of the findings will be questioned by the Arizona Democrats. In the first days of the audit, when the pros from Dover's at Cyber Ninja's undertook this effort, they were giving workers blue and black pens. Which can modify ballots. And to pretty much undetected. So that fact alone is stronger than any facts that Trump or his supporters had of any fraud back in November. HIre a group headed by a man who believes Trump won, let them slip blue and black pens into the "audit" and there's nothing that could ever go wrong there. If the auditors don't know enough about what they are auditing, then anything they "uncover" will be questionable.
Hmmm, seems you Socialists sure are trying to get a lot of mileage out of that pen story.

That happened during a dry run with test ballots, and it was called out immediately by observers. The black and blue pens were removed and replaced with green and red pens before any actual ballots were reviewed on the floor. Even the left leaning Arizona Republic said so...