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Oh get over it 700UW ..... USA320Pilot opinion is welcome by ME, it's just one guys opinion. I don't want an interesting thread to turn into another personal attack thread ....please??
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A merger will happen. When the right airline comes along and a merger/sale will put the right money in the right pockets, it will happen. <_<
I can't see what Frontier would really give US-HP. Sure, Denver and some Airbii, but that's really about it. Given this would mean the end of the UA partnership, I think buying Frontier would hurt in the long run.
If AS had a compatible fleet, I would think AS would make sure sense. Or ATA.
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Well, PAR Investment Partners is buying again - this time 1.75 million shares from ACE @ $38.60/share (netting ACE most of their original $75 million investment back). This brings PAR to owning 16.56% of US, definitely making them our largest shareholder.
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Thank God. That post you responded to almost gave me a heart attack. Even a rumor of AMR is enough to make a guy sick.
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Just from personal experience....
I called US and was on hold forever, then they switched me to an America West side agent and they couldnt do anything so they told me to come to the airport. OK, now who do I call and hope to get?
I tried checking in online and it wouldnt let me. The kiosks also didnt work and now you tell me I'm in the wrong line again? Your company s&^ks!
Add many other scenarios to the above and you get just a small taste of the "nightmare" some of us are already dealing with on a daily basis.
For those crews who are strictly "East" or "West", you arent seeing it yet. But those of us on the front line in certain cities and in rez (or having to deal with rez or any support function (( 45 mins on hold to the help desk?)) are already seeing the problems. Hopefully it will be full speed ahead to get the major hurdles cleared, but the ibuprofin (and booze) is flowing freely my friend. 😉
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Am not so sure we'll see mergers among the legacy airlines, except Delta and Northwest (Meaning, they will be picked off before they're out of CH11).
More likely to see AirTran, Alaska and possible JetBlue being aquired, IMHO.
Alaska, would give US Airways an additional high yield market, and a nice addition to our route system...
AirTran might be interesting to Southwest Airlines. (Believe Southwest made a tactical mistake by not buying a piece of US Airways in CH11, thereby getting rid of competition; that is if they didn't try and were unsuccessful.)
JetBlue might be very interesting to a foreign carrier, Lufthansa/British Airways/Air France-KLM, since they have a nice size operation/slots in major East Coast markets. Also, wouldn't be out of the question that AMR or UAL would kick their tires...before they let a major foreign carrier buy it. (I know, US Government have to change rules for this to happen, but how far off is that?) We all know by now what lies east of the Miss. River 😉
Frontier Airlines would not give US Airways any new markets, no needed slots, so I don't see the that as very likely. Now, Alaska Airlines...🙂
Mergers between the legacy carriers would result in a public outcry, and the politicians are in office to...be re-elected, no?! LOL
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More likely to see AirTran, Alaska and possible JetBlue being aquired, IMHO.
Alaska, would give US Airways an additional high yield market, and a nice addition to our route system...
AirTran might be interesting to Southwest Airlines. (Believe Southwest made a tactical mistake by not buying a piece of US Airways in CH11, thereby getting rid of competition; that is if they didn't try and were unsuccessful.)
JetBlue might be very interesting to a foreign carrier, Lufthansa/British Airways/Air France-KLM, since they have a nice size operation/slots in major East Coast markets. Also, wouldn't be out of the question that AMR or UAL would kick their tires...before they let a major foreign carrier buy it. (I know, US Government have to change rules for this to happen, but how far off is that?) We all know by now what lies east of the Miss. River 😉
Frontier Airlines would not give US Airways any new markets, no needed slots, so I don't see the that as very likely. Now, Alaska Airlines...🙂
Mergers between the legacy carriers would result in a public outcry, and the politicians are in office to...be re-elected, no?! LOL
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And until there is one computer system that will happen. Are you an employee? Customer? If this company sucks, maybe it's time for you to either find another job or go to another airline. Its a free country. The company has made it clear to stay in touch with changes. This is a merger and crap like this is going to happen until we have one system which the IT guys are working hard to put together ASAP. If you that impatient. move on... but a nightmare? Nah!! 😉 😉
You dont know the answer to this by now? 😉
I'm actually neither. :blink:
This wasnt my word. I've put up with 20 years of much worse than this. This was from the customers perspective (and we hear it on a daily basis). Its from the rez outsourcing, rez switching (calling East and getting switched to West who cant do what needs to be done), etc. I do keep up to date, but Ma and Pa dont and if its so confusing for those who work and travel here, imagine them trying to figure things out. Throw in a codeshare "operated by Ted for United" after standing in another line for 20 mins and you can see where someone might (rightly or wrongly) get the impression that we suck. From the first (outsourced) rez call holding ? amount of time, right thru check in, things are NOT smooth as silk for the customer. Once they get on the plane, there isnt much need for them to complain to the flight crew about their experiences, but trust me, we get it first hand all day long.
I agree and I do, but once again, they need to let the customers know whats going on. "You mean you arent merged yet?" Some signage that things are progressing, but still not complete would go a long way to explaining why they are being switched, shuffled, etc to get someone that can help them.
Did you know that the Beta test for QIK over Sabre has been postponed? It was supposed to happen this week, but we havent been given a new time frame and from a couple people I've talked to, it doesnt sound like it will be soon. I hope I'm wrong and I know the IT people hope so too, but until then, things are going to be a "nightmare" for anyone on the "East" or "West" side who get someone on the other side wanting help.
Well, many people are moving on, unfortunately they are the customers. People understand a merger takes time, but they put the "US Airways" face on things to make it seem like we are one, and we are far from it. I understand the reasoning to get rid of the America West name and present a united front asap, but when things dont go smoothly because we arent one, people get p-o'd. The company needs to come up with some signage advising of such so some people will better understand whats happening.
I can tell you so far, its been closer to a nightmare than a dream... B)
And we arent in Kansas anymore either..... 😛h34r:
Spoken like a person not in touch with our customers and fount line personnel. Buddy you need to stand in front of the ticket/gates counter for a day during a holiday or spring breaks.
When you work in rez and info and communication are lacking, or really non existant, is a nightmare. Pax(customers) are truly confused as to where to check in and depending on which rez system or what their needs are whether they are mistransferred enough to create an irate situation for no reason. Example US east and US west cannot see each others loads or for that matter, seat maps. Upgrades for elites should be a simple matter but can take a number of fon calls to be processed correctly. Heaven forbid you need a fon for ato sup for the other sides city- or maybe baggage claim or any tkt counter info such as hours. How about the stupid RTFC debacle or whose voucher is whose and who can they fly on. The info is nowhere for us and we must call and wait to see if they have a hold time for info we should have avail. West side had no clue for 5 months that no seats were assigned on shuttle flights. Our first reaction was We Arent Southwest! Many agents didnt know what a shuttle flight was, never mind the markets. How about any info about an a/c? We must go to the website to find info. Hp agents were told they would be handling travel agents with only 3 hrs training on another system. We cant always find the routing a pax would like to take or even if we fly the market. Dont forget Hp only connected in phx and las and now agents are searching for flights between cities they are not familiar with and connecting in other cities. The systems are not set up to do it and the frustration level for agents is rising. They dont mind doing their jobs just the technology and info to do it. We are given info usually after the fact and sometimes we have to get our backsides kicked while doing it. Pax dont know if they can check in on line due to other side rez system processing initial purchase or dont know whether to check in with US HP Mesa or US dont even mention Piedmont etc. Its almost comical and then to hear f/a's say how hard it is to remember to say "Thank you for flying US Airways." This is not a bash on flight attendants just an idea of how rez job as changed and others have not. So yes it is a nightmare and these are only a few of the many trials we are working thru not to mention working the otherside with agents who cant do what we do and xfer us to other depts and then disconnct the call. (If we can understand what they are saying.) We(I mean those who work for this company) dont receive any training, its thrown in your mailbox and most of it is poorly written amd never complete. We usually wait for the updated memo for clarification. All in all I CAN wait for another merger. Lets get this one done and all the integrations complete before throwing another whole company at us.
