Mid term blow out?

eolesen

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His ego wins either way, but the donors will not be there this time around, which is ultimately what decides things anymore. The money he's sitting on right now wouldn't last into a primary. He's got less than $100M and will probably still spend a bunch of that in Georgia to try and save face.

This piece today from Michelle Tafoya pretty much sums up where many if not most Trump voters are today:


In a poll I saw yesterday (over 50,000 responses) there was 85% support for Desantis in 2024 and only 15% for Trump. Trump can't afford to lose in the primaries. He'll be far more successful being a kingmaker and elder statesman than a candidate. And the pay is about the same.
 
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I think abortion drove a lot of it. But Trump backed candidates.....when Trump stumped for them, how much time did he devote to the border, inflation, gas prices, the stock market, or any other big issues that was supposed to make the GOP a shoo in? He likes to talk a lot, but every time I saw him he was talking about stolen elections and losers and all kinds of things that were important to him personally, but nothing that might get the candidate he was stumping for elected.
 
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I think abortion drove a lot of it. But Trump backed candidates.....when Trump stumped for them, how much time did he devote to the border, inflation, gas prices, the stock market, or any other big issues that was supposed to make the GOP a shoo in? He likes to talk a lot, but every time I saw him he was talking about stolen elections and losers and all kinds of things that were important to him personally, but nothing that might get the candidate he was stumping for elected.

I saw a repeated, consistent theme in all the left campaign ads.

'Republicans want to ban abortion nationwide' (even though this is as unconstitutional as RvW was.)

I don't think Lindsey Graham appearing two times, about 3-4 weeks apart, on the talking head shows had anything to do with that, do you?

'Republicans want to end Medicare, Medicaid and social security'

I don't think Mitt Romney's comments about looking at ending some non-discretionary spending had anything to do with that, do you?

Then there was someone, I forget who, was crowing about 'When we get in, we're ending the Ukraine credit card'. I didn't see that in any ads, but that is a very sensitive topic to people on all sides.

NO it's not. We don't need those types voting. What we need are the retirees on social security and medicare out voting Republican to keep us from becoming a socialist country. All these kids want is their student loan debt forgiven.

When will Gen-X wake up and realize they were scammed by Biden? Biden knew he couldn't do what he did, and Gen_X didn't.

It will absolutely split the party, though it's interesting to note that Trump-backed candidates (and those still trafficking in "stop the steal" nonsense) fared much more poorly overall than more moderate R's. There's a story in those stats.

I don't know about splitting the party. Trump has been doing an excellent job alienating open minded supporters lately, with some of His surprising off the cuff remarks. I seriously think all this latest DOJ coercion is affecting Him. Like He's on the verge of popping a gasket or something. Talked to a guy this afternoon and I mentioned a couple things Trump has said recently and he was very upset.

Watch and see what happens with Trump and the Walker runoff.

My point is Trump will probably become His own undoing.
 

eolesen

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Nancy Pelosi lost the House twice. That's a new record.

I'm fine with the Senate at 50-50 or even 49-51 as long as Manchin and Sinema are still around.

Manchin needs to continue to be a moderate if he has any chance at re-election in 2024. He'd be better off declaring himself an Independent or a Republican right now.

If Fetterman can get elected, maybe Bears should run in 2024.