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Familiar with them myself. But again whatever criteria they have in place is fine-awards are often given with other motivation and are highly subjective. I happen not to be a fan of CLT, get over it. Any individual is free to have whatever opinion they'd like of airport/airline/city/restaurant/union/etc they would like. Guess you can't tolerate an alternative point of view, and as usual resort to attacks.700UW said:So you are an airline, aviation and airline expert too?
You are nothing put a US, CLT and union hater and the IATA is a very well respected organization.
But you are nothing but a legend in your own mind.
WT how can you continue to say that DL employees are enjoying compensation far greater than any CBA could allow but in practically claim in the same breath that WN (one of the most heavily unionized carriers in the world, btw) is poised to "[with DL] run everyone else over"? You are talking out of both sides of your mouth
We'll see in time since they can't get "parked" for any length of time without use but I think you will see DL open a few more int'l gateways where DL most needs to be.... maybe not tomorrow but it might not be too far down the road.I'm curious to see where the DCA slot(s) wind up...
WorldTraveler said:Anyone that has any sense at all will recognize that the industry has been fundamentally reshaped over the past several years and is and will be driven by DL and WN with the rest of the pack trying desperately to keep from being run over in the process.
WorldTraveler said:
DL employees do well because the company is well run and the employees by and large are giving the company what it needs to succeed.
You do realize that WN's fleet age will remain higher than AA and UA's and WN and DL will have older fleets?How can you compare WN to DL when WN's labor costs, aging planes, etc are making it look more and more like a classic legacy with each passing year, and still say that WN is still going to "run over" us? I am not buying it, partularly when both carriers take such a fundamentally different view on how to run an airline. It can't be just as you say that they both "know what it takes" to keep their employees happy… That makes no sense. NK is hugely successful but I don't see any of their pilots for flight attendants jumping for joy.
This is a vague statement that makes no sense. There are plenty of people at DL who have signed IAM cards who might disagree with it, if only they knew what it meant.
737823 said:Agree completely on DTW, they have the finest all around facilities in the nation between North Terminal, McNamara Terminal, and Westin hotel. NW really did a great job there and it is my understanding that the facility also came in very competitive on the cost side as well for a facility of that size and scope.
ATL is not bad local or connecting honestly. Security lines can be long but with Precheck and now the new intl terminal it is much better. I have yet to experience the DL Porsche service though but have only heard excellent things. Sounds like a win win arrangement for DL and Porsche alike. Cosmetically the facilities are much better than MEM (and CLT) and have better dining options like One Flew South and french bakery in new international terminal.
Josh
Just curious Kev...only answer if you want but did you also work at MSP? How was the culture there vs MEM vs PDX vs other stations?Kev3188 said:No doubt DTW is a fantastic facility, but MSP is still my sentimental favorite (and has the Porsche service as well, FWIW)...
Not true-AA has cut jobs at BOS, UA outsourced MHT and MIA, looks like UA will contract out PVD too. Changes need to be made, DL has a duty to their employees, shareholders, passengers, and other stakeholders to run a stable, profitable airline. Keeping flights and jobs at MEM when the hub doesn't perform doesn't suit the long term interests of these stakeholders.Airlinelifer said:Seems that Josh lucked out and never got a RIF notice, he seems just "giddy" that MEM and any other airport that doesn't meet his "standard" should be cast out.
No empathy for those affected.
Fortunately not yet but I do empathize. I just have a different perspective on all this. DL doesn't exist to provide people in MEM employment. Yes DL like any other corporation needs employees to function and should take care of them but I do not believe they are or should be under any obligation to keep an airport staffed and operating unprofitable flying. GM doesn't operate unprofitable factories, Macys doesn't keep underperforming stores, DL shouldn't keep those flights/jobs in MEM. Admittedly I'm not a fan of MEM but I certainly do not take any joy seeing peoples' lives devastated and financial security threatened.Airlinelifer said:Ok Josh, I get the financial part of it, (wasn't MEM/CVG dehubbing murmered right after the merger announcement?). But you don't have to so damn "giddy" with the bad news of people moving to keep their jobs, it can rub people the wrong way.
Look at how you answered my post, you deflect it by pointing at the other airlines cutbacks while my post was directed at YOU not DL, DL is a corporation, not a human being (Citizens United can pound sand), black and white, making money to survive and thrive is the motto, I understand that.
I would like to know if you have ever been laidoff?