Mr.Bob Crandall has spoken....(today's WSJ)

[NewHampshire Black Bears]

My "Defined benefit" pension check, that comes EVERY month, has "(uncle BOBBY'S)", and Arpey (WHO CRANDALL HAND PICKED)......(invisable) NAME, written all over it !!!!!!!


Your turn. :blink:

NH/BB's

 

[insp89]

My "Defined benefit" pension check, that comes EVERY month, has "(uncle BOBBY'S)", and Arpey (WHO CRANDALL HAND PICKED)......(invisable) NAME, written all over it !!!!!!!
Your turn. :blink:

NH/BB's

Well Congratulations,
What has this have to do with Crandall's opinion on Usair and Delta TODAY ?
Thank you for allowing me to have "my turn".

 

[eolesen]

He would have been more than happy to see every other airline out of business, and their employees out of work as well. As I said above, he played some very dirty pool against BN to finish them off as fast as possible. Not that BN wasn't in trouble beforehand, but his tricks made certain that they wouldn't survive. I have listend to all of his Hitler style speeches over the years, and this guy had no reguard for anyone other than himself. You can be a good effective CEO without being like him...

Let's see. He is in the game to win at any cost, and you see that as a bad thing? What a [edited] you are. No wonder the airline(s) you've worked for have gone out of business.

For every one failure you've mentioned, there are a dozen success that occurred under Crandall's leadership. AA has earned more each year from its LHR routes than they paid TW for them in 1991. Likewise, they earn more in Latin America in a six month period than they paid Eastern for those routes in 1989. Sabre is still the leader in the GDS world (even as an independent company) due to Crandall's vision in investing and continuing to invest in technology. And it's no surprise or coincidence that you have been more airline CEO's who served under Crandall than any other CEO in history.

What Crandall said and did wasn't personal -- it was business, and his attitude towards the competition was that every dollar in their pocket was one less in ours.

I'll gladly take a Crandall even in today's world. Take no prisoners, and leave no building unscorched.

Too bad we don't have more business leaders and politicians like Bob. The war in Iraq would be over already, and we wouldn't have a bazillion dollar trade deficit with China.

 

[wings396]

Well actually there Mr. Trashmouth, none of the Airlines that I worked for have EVER gone out of business. My point here is that you can be a successful CEO without being like the Hitler of the Airline industry. Arpey is a prime example, he seems to be a good leader, and doesn't feel the need to spout off his mouth about everything and anything like Crandall did, and continues to do. As a CEO you naturally want to do the best for your company, but wishing and wanting your competitors to go out of business goes above and beyond this. Is that the only way loud mouth Crandall felt his Airline could prosper? As I said before, Bethune and Herb were excellent at their jobs, and NEVER spoke all of the Crap like Crandall felt a need to do. He should have gone over to Aeroflot, that would have been right up his alley.... 😛

 

[whatkindoffreshhell]

Wings -- the name of the game is to put your competitor out of business.

Everyone loves McDonalds and their charismatic founder, Ray Kroc.

Ray Kroc was once asked what he would do if he came upon a competitor who was drowning.

Mr.Kroc immediately replied "I would stick a running garden hose in his mouth!"

Charisma and leadership are evident in many forms.

Some like Ray Kroc. Some like Bob Crandall.

Perhaps Crandall was best suited for his era. As Arpey is today.

 

[LGA Fleet Service]

As I said before, Bethune and Herb were excellent at their jobs, and NEVER spoke all of the Crap like Crandall felt a need to do.

Bethune never spoke crap?

Read on:

"They don't realize that while you're sitting here talking, someone is f*cking you. Changing a fare, changing a flight, moving something. There's no autopilot, and that's why I've seen a lot of guys come and go."

— Gordon Bethune, CEO Continental Airlines, regards his peers at other airlines, 'Fortune' magazine 18 October 2004.

"Since 1978 the record pretty well shows that no start-up airline . . . has really been successful, so the odds of JetBlue having long-term success are remote. I'm not going to say it can't happen because stranger things have happened, but I personally believe P.T. Barnum was, in that respect, correct."

— Gordon Bethune, CEO Continental Airlines, regards the 70% rise in JetBlue's stock price in the days after its IPO. Continental's annual shareholder meeting, 17 April 2002.



"I don't think JetBlue has a better chance of being profitable than 100 other predecessors with new airplanes, new employees, low fares, all touchy-feely ... all of them are losers. Most of these guys are smoking ragweed."

— Gordon Bethune, CEO Continental Airlines, 'Time' magazine, June 2002.

 

[eolesen]

Herb never talks trash in public, but if you believe that it doesn't go on behind closed doors, you're sadly mistaken.

 

[Platinum Steve]

Let's see. He is in the game to win at any cost, and you see that as a bad thing? What a pussy you are.

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Too bad we don't have more business leaders and politicians like Bob. The war in Iraq would be over already, and we wouldn't have a bazillion dollar trade deficit with China.

NH/BB, you know I love you. But, this is the single greatest post I've read on this board. Congratulations, FM. You're now #1 in my book.

 

[Mr Eagle]

Too bad we don't have more business leaders and politicians like Bob. The war in Iraq would be over already, and we wouldn't have a bazillion dollar trade deficit with China.

Sounds Like Another Expert, Canidate for PRESIDENT? Seriously Why Don't you Run for President you have all the Answer's.Most LIB's Do They Just Have No PLAN for EXITING.Stage LEFT?
MWW

 

[eolesen]

Too bad we don't have more business leaders and politicians like Bob. The war in Iraq would be over already, and we wouldn't have a bazillion dollar trade deficit with China.

Sounds Like Another Expert, Canidate for PRESIDENT? Seriously Why Don't you Run for President you have all the Answer's.Most LIB's Do They Just Have No PLAN for EXITING.Stage LEFT?
MWW

I may be wrong, but Crandall leans far more conservative than he does liberal. He has been a long time board member at Halliburton, so Bush assumed he was a Republican and nominated him for Amtrak's board in 2003. That got shelved after it was discovered that he was the only director at Halliburton who didn't contribute to Republican candidates -- instead, he'd donated to the Howard Dean campaign in 2003 and Kerry's campaign in 2004.

Still, party affiliations aside, if Crandall had been SecDef instead of Rummy, there would't have been any pussy-footing around about whether or not it was politically correct to shoot back at insurgents firing weapons from inside a mosque.

Al-Sadr would have been charcoal months ago, and there wouldn't be hundreds of Osama Wannabees flooding across the border from Syria and Iran border hoping to get to an interior zone and kill US troops.

But that's just my conservative opinion...