NC wooing Embraer

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State wooing plane maker

News and Observer

Dudley Price Staff Writer

RALEIGH -- State officials are going shopping in South America to give North Carolina''s sagging economy a boost. The officials hope to persuade Brazil''s Embraer, the world''s fourth-largest aircraft manufacturer, to build an assembly or support facility at one of the state''s larger airports, such as Raleigh-Durham International Airport or Kinston''s Global TransPark. The aerospace giant has shown interest in North Carolina before...
 
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On 4/15/2003 8:10:05 AM a320av8r wrote:

State wooing plane maker

News and Observer

Dudley Price Staff Writer

RALEIGH -- State officials are going shopping in South America to give North Carolina''s sagging economy a boost. The officials hope to persuade Brazil''s Embraer, the world''s fourth-largest aircraft manufacturer, to build an assembly or support facility at one of the state''s larger airports, such as Raleigh-Durham International Airport or Kinston''s Global TransPark. The aerospace giant has shown interest in North Carolina before...

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Maybe they can hire furloughed US employees to assemble the very aircraft that may get their jobs back....
 
Gee, one would think. With MDA being based out of PIT and MDA using their aircraft, wouldn''t it be logical to have this facility built in PIT?
 
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On 4/15/2003 11:25:46 AM PITMTC wrote:

Gee, one would think. With MDA being based out of PIT and MDA using their aircraft, wouldn''t it be logical to have this facility built in PIT?

Labor costs would be a BIG factor......land costs, weather may factor in this also.....is N.C a right to work state? Non-union could be even another factor.....
 
Anyone know where NC ranks on the list of cost of living, cost of business, etc?

Of course I wouldn''t be too shocked to see states like Alabama going for this too...suprisingly funded by some retirement fund.

Would like to see how NC would compare to Oklahoma, which now has R2W and is among the least expensive places to live. Still think U should pack up and move all the res offices there and have one large central building complemented by at-home agents....but thats another thread. :)
 
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On 4/15/2003 2:55:12 PM a320av8r wrote:

The Global TransPark in ISO with an 11000ft runway and lots of empty acreage available is number 1 on the list. NC is a "right to work" state so unions are not a problem. Lots of incentives too. Embraer sells 64% of their aircraft in North America. GE engine plant is in nearby Durham...

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do you know if Embraer is offering a cradle to grave maintenence option like Airbus. If so NC would be a prime spot, or maybe Alabama, by way of Bronner Air.
 
The Global TransPark in ISO with an 11000ft runway and lots of empty acreage available is number 1 on the list. NC is a "right to work" state so unions are not a problem. Lots of incentives too. Embraer sells 64% of their aircraft in North America. GE engine plant is in nearby Durham...
 
Hey PITMTC read this:

.C. may compete for US Airways

U.S. Airways
Charlotte/Douglas International Airport

David M. Brown and Jim Ritchie
TRIBUNE-REVIEW
Saturday, April 12, 2003

The director of Charlotte-Douglas International Airport said Friday if the location of US Airways'' MidAtlantic Airways regional jet base planned for Pittsburgh International Airport is up for grabs, he will make a pitch for it.

"My role here is to run the airport for the people in the region," said Jerry Orr, director of the North Carolina airport, home of US Airways'' largest hub. "In doing that, my job is to provide as much air service and as many jobs as I can. Obviously, if a major airline would want to locate jobs here, that''s something we would actively pursue."

US Airways initially pledged to put its MidAtlantic operation at Pittsburgh International, but recently told Allegheny County officials the location of the base would either be Pittsburgh or Charlotte, depending on which airport would come up with $40 million to build a maintenance and training center.

US Airways spokesman David Castelveter yesterday would not discuss Orr''s comments.

"The focus of our regional jet operation is in Pittsburgh," Castelveter said. "We are having discussions with Allegheny County about reducing the cost structure at Pittsburgh International."

Just minutes before emerging from Chapter 11 bankruptcy protection last week, US Airways rejected its $50 million in annual leases and contracts at Pittsburgh International, causing widespread fear about the airline''s future here. The carrier employs about 9,000 people at its Pittsburgh hub.

The airline has demanded lower operating costs from the Allegheny County Airport Authority in addition to $155 million in airport improvements — $40 million of which would be to build the regional jet maintenance and training center. US Airways also demanded $235 million in improvements and rent relief from Philadelphia International Airport.

US Airways said it could put the regional jet base in Charlotte if Pittsburgh and Harrisburg don''t come up with $40 million to build the maintenance and training center.

"I think they''re trying to decide where to put it, and I don''t think they''ve decided yet and are looking at all alternatives," Orr said.

Kent George, director of the Allegheny County Airport Authority, would not comment yesterday. He and authority board members met privately yesterday morning with county Chief Executive Jim Roddey to discuss negotiations with US Airways. Roddey also declined to comment this week.

County and airport officials have decided not to challenge US Airways'' rejection of its airport leases and contracts. Instead, they intend to negotiate with the airline.

It''s likely they''ll discuss strategy during a meeting tentatively scheduled for later this month involving Gov. Ed Rendell and local leaders from Pittsburgh and Philadelphia. On Thursday, Roddey formed a five-member advisory panel that will help with the negotiations.

Rendell has pledged financial help from his proposed $2 billion economic development bond issue to keep US Airways in Pittsburgh, but he said he wants US Airways to also make "economic contributions" and commitments. Among them could be a request that the airline move its headquarters, located outside of Washington, D.C., to Pennsylvania. Both Pittsburgh and Philadelphia are US Airways hubs.

It does not appear Charlotte leaders are preparing a specific financial proposal to win the MidAtlantic base. But economic officials there say they''re ready to compete to get such projects.

"It''s an arms race when it comes to incentives right now," said Tad Boggs, a spokesman for the North Carolina Department of Commerce. "Every time you feel that you are taking a step to pull even, the other states are doing something to pull back ahead."

North Carolina has experience in putting together inventive packages for aviation ventures. In 1998, that state sold Federal Express on locating its Mid-Atlantic hub in Greensboro. The deal gave the freight company $115.5 million in tax exemptions and credits over 25 years.
 
If you'll notice the date on the Jepp plate, it's outdated and the runway has been completed. The surrounding area is farms. Lots of open spaces to build what you want.The entire area has been upgraded with rail and interstate quality highways. I've paid the taxes for it.
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On 4/15/2003 11:25:46 AM PITMTC wrote:

Gee, one would think. With MDA being based out of PIT and MDA using their aircraft, wouldn''t it be logical to have this facility built in PIT?

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Oh yeah that would be something. Allegheny county and the city of PIT do something, ANYTHING to help the aviliation industry and its biggest employeer --- US--...Thats laughable.!! At least NC has supported US over the years. They''ve been critical but always been a supporter of US..Cant say that about"mecca"...can we now !!!
 
What world do you guys live in?

Do you think the PIT midfield terminal showed up because AWA offered to fly to PHX?

PIT put up a billion dollars in bonds for US, and offered at one point to do another 500 million on the new hanger before the UA deal.
 
Talk that U had a melt down with Embraer over the new 170''s and now talking with the CRJ ERJ group on equipment. Be nice to have Embraer in NC, alot of jobs, ect... will see.