New Pilot contract

[crazystnic]

Good info, I think the checking in after a trip is a non starter...
the 12 hour call for long has already been agreed on...

the one benefit to the East system is 1/2 any DH goes on top of guarantee. One can often get 80-84 hours with just the DH...

 

[oldiebutgoody]

I think the above is a list of good questions that deserve a answer. Like all reserve system’s the AWA system sucks. I can say that because I lived it for years. But nevertheless I will try and answer your questions the best I can. There is much more to the system then can be put down in a post but I will try to hit the highlights but keep it brief and as accurate as possible.
If any of this is incorrect I hope someone with more knowledge will post a correction.

How are trips awarded to reserves?
The AWA contract has a short call and long call reserve schedule.
Short call is 2 hours callout to show.
Long call is 12 hours to show.

Short Call- pilots are awarded a reserve line at the beginning of the month everybody obviously starts with zero credit. You’re placed in buckets A,B,C or D. The trips are then assigned to the pilot with the lowest amount of credit in each bucket. Each bucket is a 12 hour shift with a 2 hour callout for report time 3 hours to the aircraft.(A= 0400-1400). The discrepancy in 0400-1400 is due to the two-hour callout. You cannot be called after 1359 but can be called at 1350.
Long Call-same as short call except 12 Hour call out 13 to aircraft.

Is it a short/long call system? Is there a pay difference?
No difference in pay reserve guarantee is 77 hours for both long call and short call. I think.

What are the penalties to the company if they assign reserves trips on days off?
While on a reserve line you have golden days and days off golden days cannot be moved by the company without consent of the pilot. I believe once a month a day off can be moved but then that day turns in to a golden day you can then put that new golden day wherever you would like for the rest of the month. In my five years on reserve I ran into this situation one time.

What are the rules for commuting on reserve?
The rule is you can commute if you can show at the airport within 2 hours on short call and 12 hours on long call. How’s that for needing improvement.
Bottom line is if you live in base the system is really not that bad. I cannot think of a US Airways base I would like to live in. Although some are better than others.

How are pay guarantees affected by flying on holidays or days off?
You are paid 77 hours for reserve anything over 77 hours is paid at your normal hourly rate. There is no holiday pay. If you can pick up time on your days off which you can’t unless you’re very lucky Time
Whores beware that it is also paid at your normal hourly rate but over and above your 77 hours. The daily guarantee for reserves is 5:15 credit per day or what you fly whatever is greater. That being said you can fly 7 hours a day for three days layover 23:55 in Boise fly home on the fourth day and still be paid 21 hours because it averages to 515 per day for 4 days.

The only thing I've ever heard about the West reserve system is that you have to check with scheduling at the end of your trip to see if they want to use you more that day. The East guys typically CANNOT be used more that day, and don't need to check with anyone. Even that detail could be in error, as no one has ever offered to clear up any misconceptions.

You are required to check Maestro or check in with Mama on your last day of reserve only. I personally would always check Maestro no need to remind them of your existence on your last day of reserve. I cannot remember the rule but I think they have 30 minutes from blocking in to call and reassign you. This happens quite a bit when they are short on reserves or they just want to screw with you. It is affectionately called tagged on the west system.

Thank you. That is a very constructive reply. It appears that with a little "cherry picking" maybe we could actually make the reserve system better for pilots on both sides.

 

[cleardirect]

Given that my retirement would affect all but about 200 pilots, one who is even mildly knowledgeable would assume the likelihood that I am not an A319 co-pilot.



You obviously DON'T get it. As often happens in your case.

Right now, I am on the bid and awarded a line every month. On medical leave, that means someone junior to me is flying my trips and the time trickles down to reserves. There has been no staffing change due to my medical leave.

If I do actually retire on medical (Long Term Disability...LTD), then the staffing will change to fill my position and everyone on the east except about 200 pilots senior to me will move up one number, and there will be a new A330 captain trained to take my spot. And a new B767 captain trained to take his/her spot. And a new A320 captain trained to take his/her spot. And a new B737 captain trained to take his/her spot. And a new A330 F/O trained to take his/her spot. And a new B767 F/O trained to take his/her spot. And a new A320 F/O trained to take his/her spot. And a new B737 F/O trained to take his/her spot. And a new E190 captain trained to take his/her spot. And a new (returned from furlough) E190 f/o trained to take his/her spot.

Get in now?

No wonder US Airway went BK and also needs 1000 pilots for training float. One retirement causes 9 training event? Talk about inefficient.

 

[ggiby]

No wonder US Airway went BK and also needs 1000 pilots for training float. One retirement causes 9 training event? Talk about inefficient.

its called seniority.

 

[usfliboi]

No wonder US Airway went BK and also needs 1000 pilots for training float. One retirement causes 9 training event? Talk about inefficient.

I agree somewhat. US can not go back to the days where we tinker on the cliff....I respect both the union and the company however as an employee I want the company to remain profitable in return the union rank and file prosper as well. The union is as good as the company is. No one can argue with that....(Well some might)

 

[crazystnic]

Your kidding me right? You respect this company? Name one thing you can respect?

 

[skynews]

Your kidding me right? You respect this company? Name one thing you can respect?

haven't missed a paycheck in 23 years.

 

[crazystnic]

haven't missed a paycheck in 23 years.

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[skynews]

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WOW.. there is shooting for the stars!

You asked for one thing, you got one thing.