nlrb decision

[Bagbelt]

If employees who are not supervisors but can direct other employees cannot join unions- how will it affect us? eg. crew chiefs, captains, or pursers. This pertains to the NLRB decision this week that nurses who assign other nurses shifts, breaks etc. cannot join unions.

 

[TWU informer]

If employees who are not supervisors but can direct other employees cannot join unions- how will it affect us? eg. crew chiefs, captains, or pursers. This pertains to the NLRB decision this week that nurses who assign other nurses shifts, breaks etc. cannot join unions.

The National Mediation Board will decide based on has the most cash to influence Politics when the time comes for this issue to be addressed under the Railway Labor Act.

Just as the NMB ruled against Supervisors at AA.

It is intersting to note, that soon, if the "Working Together" plan reaches complete fruition, then the Natural Work Groups (employees) will be "Supervising" themselves. Should we all then be be removed from union representation?

 

[NewHampshire Black Bears]

The National Mediation Board will decide based on has the most cash to influence Politics when the time comes for this issue to be addressed under the Railway Labor Act.

Just as the NMB ruled against Supervisors at AA.

It is intersting to note, that soon, if the "Working Together" plan reaches complete fruition, then the Natural Work Groups (employees) will be "Supervising" themselves. Should we all then be be removed from union representation?

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A great question.

Fortunately, thanks to Rep. Mark Foley ® Florida, the house of reps. is a "sure thing" for the Democrats(and "mabey" the senate). This will begin to tip the administration/politics in the direction away from the BRUTAL-"EVERYTHING is PRO BUSINESS", towards the working man/woman. Even if it just a lil' bit !!


"THANKS MARK FOLEY", we'll ALL send you an E-mail/IM to show our appreciation

NH/BB's

 

[TWU informer]

I have not met a Democrat or a Republican holding a Political Office, who isn't just another rich man that likes money.

The days of the Democratic Party being a working man's party has long been gone.

Truth is, a Labor Party needs to be formed. But since the AFL-CIO is in bed with the rich Democrats, nothing is going to happen.

Very similar to the AA/TWU arrangement.

The working man doesn't stand a chance as long as the two party system is in place and Money Contributions to Campaigns are considered "FREE SPEECH" by the Supreme Court.

You have obvioulsy been brain washed by some AFL-CIO Union to believe otherwise.

 

[Vortilon]

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A great question.

Fortunately, thanks to Rep. Mark Foley ® Florida, the house of reps. is a "sure thing" for the Democrats(and "mabey" the senate). This will begin to tip the administration/politics in the direction away from the BRUTAL-"EVERYTHING is PRO BUSINESS", towards the working man/woman. Even if it just a lil' bit !!
"THANKS MARK FOLEY", we'll ALL send you an E-mail/IM to show our appreciation

NH/BB's

Are you sure you want to screw big business? Like me you probably have a 401k. Guess what happens to your 401k when you start screwing the companies that are aking your 401k money. Companies provide jobs, not big government. Also, I happen to like the current tax cuts which are good till 2010. If god forbid Charlie Rangle gets a hold of the purse strings - you can kiss those tax cuts goodbye. He will open up the doors to government entitlement programs - hell even illegal immigrants/terrorists will be collecting social security. Plus they tend to cater to unsavory single interest groups.

 

[Boomer]

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A great question.

Fortunately, thanks to Rep. Mark Foley ® Florida, the house of reps. is a "sure thing" for the Democrats(and "mabey" the senate). This will begin to tip the administration/politics in the direction away from the BRUTAL-"EVERYTHING is PRO BUSINESS", towards the working man/woman. Even if it just a lil' bit !!
"THANKS MARK FOLEY", we'll ALL send you an E-mail/IM to show our appreciation

NH/BB's

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NHBB,
Kennedy led the Airline Deregulation Act of '79 during the Carter years when the House was ruled by Democrats; then, Kennedy prevented the Airline Worker Retraining Act from being funded.

Being that the House of Representatives was Democratically Ruled, and that spending bills must originate in the House: do you really believe that Democrats give a rat $hi+e about airline workers?

The fact is that no cares about your $hi+e more than you!

Move the Unions to the center, then they can affect the only thing that Politicians care about: the prepetuation of power.

 

[eolesen]

If employees who are not supervisors but can direct other employees cannot join unions- how will it affect us? eg. crew chiefs, captains, or pursers. This pertains to the NLRB decision this week that nurses who assign other nurses shifts, breaks etc. cannot join unions.

I don't see any impact whatsoever.

Aside from the few stations who have manning crew chiefs handling overtime, I don't see where you have union members assigning people's work schedules. That's a bid process by seniority. The NLRB has always included those responsible for directing a crew (i.e. crew chiefs, captains, pursers) as being in-class, and I don't see that changing anytime soon.

 

[Bear96]

Don't confuse the NLRA with the RLA. The recent nursing supervisor decision was decided under the NLRA. The status of "supervisors" organizing is very different under the RLA. Low-level supervisors (but not "management") are not precluded from being under the protection of the RLA -- crew chiefs, captains, pursers -- despite performing some "supervisory" functions. However, someone performing "supervisory" functions under the NLRA is explicitly excluded from that act's protections, which is why the exact definition of "supervisor" is so crucial in NLRA-covered industries. That exclusion, and therefore the importance of the distinction, does not exist under the RLA.

Bottom line: since this was an NLRA decision and since supervisors are not statutorily excluded from being under the RLA's protection as they are from the NLRA's, this decision should have no impact on airlines (or railroads).

 

[AMFAMAN]

Don't confuse the NLRA with the RLA.

In fact the NMB just expanded the M&R craft and class under the RLA to include even more supervisory/traditional managemens positions. This just happened at Spirit Airlines.
http://www.nmb.gov/representation/deter2006/33n060.pdf